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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:38 PM
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If Kerry won't defend himself properly, we will have to do it for him...
johnkerry.com is weak...

i can't figure out why campaigns don't make rapid response 'mini-sites' devoted to dispel myths and lies asap.

i have a rough idea for such a site at http://www.stopthewaronheroism.com

please check it out and give me your thoughts, ideas...

i would love for this to be a group project. i am very busy but with a few people helping me out on content this site could be something.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:52 PM
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1. is it lame-o to kick your own thread?
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:53 PM
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2. Only if you do it more than 5 times...
:-)
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:55 PM
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4. thanks for the kick :)
that's only two for me so far.

I better conserve my last three.

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:57 PM
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6. I didn't see that in the forum rules but to answer the original
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:23 PM
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9. He asked if it was lame-o, not legal...
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 01:24 PM by chiburb
Hence my answer, with a :-) posted too.

You DO look for nits to pick, even on a bald guy...

(But thanks for the excuse to kick the OP!)
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:54 PM
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3. "rapid response 'mini-sites' devoted to dispel myths and lies asap"
You mean like this one? http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse

If you didn't hear his speech last night, you may well believe he's not going to defend himself but I believe he was downright defending himself well by calling Cheney out for the hateful warmongering coward he is.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 12:56 PM
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5. but i mean sites unto themselves.... not just blog entries
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:06 PM
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7. Kick. Here's what I wrote to Kerry campaign re RNC body armor slurs.
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 01:17 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
THEY ARE USING YOUR AMMO AGAINST THEM BEFORE YOU CAN USE IT!!
THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT YOU DENIED TROOPS BODY ARMOR FOR GAWD'S SAKE, MAN!!

WHERE'S MENTION OF THE BILL KERRY INTRODUCED TO REIMBURSE FAMILIES WHO HAD TO BUY BODY ARMOR FOR THEIR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS IN IRAQ TO SHAME THE PENTAGON INTO SUPPLYING OUR TROOPS WITH THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEEDED??!!?? WHERE??!!

YOU MUST 'GO NEGATIVE' (SIMPLY expose fraud, deceit, crime, incompetence)
TO JUSTIFY CHANGING HORSES
OR IT WON'T MATTER THAT KERRY IS AN ACCEPTABLE CHOICE
TO THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T SEE OUTSIDE THE TV BOX, DANG IT!

Problem: 'Support Our Troops' is being co-opted into 'Support Bush's War'.
Criticism of the White House's personal oil war is characterized as instead attacking
our own children in uniform who are STARTING TO REALIZE they are killing and dying
as corporate security for a private cabal of American industry war lords.

Solution: Having finally created the movie 'Kerry is "Jimmy Stewart/Rambo," a nice guy who kills if he has to,
NOW you can BEAT THESE CHICKENHAWKS DOWN SHOWING THEIR
ABUSE OF OUR TROOPS/VETERANS AND KERRY'S DEFENSE OF THEM.
Simple facts. Body armor, non-armored Humvees, funding.

PROBLEM:
This IWR issue is being weaponized into accusations of flip-flopping
to portray Dems as too flaky to defend the nation.
How to explain Kerry Voting for the Iraq War Resolution yet being critical of the war's 'execution?'

SOLUTION:
SAY THAT GIVING POLICE A GUN TO PROTECT US WITH IS NOT THE SAME AS TELLING THEM TO SHOOT A SUSPECT
... WHO IS STILL BEING SEARCHED FOR WEAPONS HE DOESN'T HAVE.

-Justice IS a complicated process of nuance and sensitivities CALLED RULE OF LAW determining the integrity of our nation and it's leadership in the world and here at home.

THE MACHO REPUB UBER-PATRIOT BULLIES ARE 'FEMINIZING' RULE OF LAW WITH AN AUSTRIAN STRONG MAN KNOWN AS 'THE TERMINATOR'
ATTACKING THE UN AND INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT AS IMPOTENT
AND THE CALLING THE DEMS 'SOFT ON TERROR.'

CRITICS OF BUSH ARE "GIRLIE-MEN" SHOWING WORSHIP OF BRUTE FORCE AND THE SMUG IMPUNITY OF A CRUEL BULLY, OF A 'WINNER.'

THE AGE OF MIGHT-MAKES-RIGHT POLITICAL IMPUNITY IS HERE.
(Actually, back from Nuremberg 1936)

KERRY MUST AFFIRM
THE US CONSTITUTION'S BILL OF RIGHTS,
AND
THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS
AS THE
PINNACLES OF
'COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVISM' copyright 1980 RNC, Inc
-A phrase that sells, a phrase that pays

TO BE
DEFENDED AGAINST **THEOCRACIES**
LIKE THE TALIBAN OR AL-QUEDA OR
THE WHITE HOUSE'S BULLY-PULPIT CRUSADES

TO PORTRAY KERRY AS
THE GOOD GLOBO-COP

TO DISTINGUISH HIM FROM
BUSH'S BAD GLOBO-COP.

-'Shoot first and ask questions later' is vigilantism at best and global lynching at worst.

Even the questionable role of Globo-Cop doesn't mean killing suspects indiscriminately and bombing their civilian populations.

HOW ABOUT THIS BUMPER STICKER: VOTE KERRY: STOP TORTURE
Would it be true?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:11 PM
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8. If Kerry pays me $6.4 million, I'll help defend him
And that's my final offer. :evilgrin:
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:32 PM
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10. good site: keep items short
Edited on Fri Sep-03-04 01:35 PM by oscar111
HI,
good idea, construction site looks good.

Just be sure to keep each topic's info SHORT. A site for activists and the public to go to for rebuttal info , fast, ought not to be a long read.

besides , the info to be used , will be used in rapidfire debates in carpools, at the watercooler, in class discussions, and suchlike. Rapidfire debate requires that you distill a rebuttal into the shortest possible phrase or sentence. Most people cant shorten a complex issue very well.

So please predigest the issue for them, and post SHORT rebuttals. Think about how each will sound when spoken.

I agree with what you said about the uselessness of having to search a blog to find a nugget buried in it .

KEEP BUILDING THE SITE,
oscar

Here's a rebuttal for you:

RW: Bush is a stong leader.

LW: Petgoat bush cant handle war.

OR,
Petgoat bush froze on 9/11.

OR,
Petgoat bush froze in fear on 9/11.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-04 01:35 PM
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11. thanks
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