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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:36 PM
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McCain launches Ayers Ad today
This is potentially lethal. I hope Obama comes out swinging, and soon.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14419.html
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:39 PM
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1. Oh, please. It's the same crap they've been spewing, compressed into
an ad. No one is scared of an old 60's radical, no one thinks Obama is going to start bombing federal buildings. His poll numbers are fine.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:40 PM
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3. I am nervous about what this crap will insure those nutjobs to do...
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 12:41 PM by BrklynLiberal
EDIT; By nutjobs, I mean those screaming, shouting maniacs in the audience of the McSame/barracuda rallies.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:44 PM
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13. Many people aren't old enough to realize that Ayers was a kid at the time. nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:48 PM
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19. Sorry, this Ayers crap lacks the visceral punch the GOP is hoping for.
He's not black, he's not Muslim, and obviously has been an accepted and even respected member of society for a very long time, and already was when Obama met him. It just isn't scary. At most, it will give a few undecideds and wobbly Repubs a better excuse not to vote for the black guy--it's not going to hand the GOP a win.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:35 PM
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39. I know you mean Obama was a kid at the time....
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:40 PM
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2. It is much more than MILDLY DANGEROUS!.
This is exactly what BushCo did to McSame in 2000, and now they are trying it on Obama. SHAME on McSame...shame shame shame. He deserves nothing...not even pity.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:42 PM
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8. It will kill mccain that it worked on him but
he can't get the same satisfaction that bush did.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:44 PM
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12. I know that, and you know that. but what about those crazies we see at the rallies?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:00 PM
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24. sarah palin will be left
to deal with them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:30 PM
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38. I hope that she is quickly forgotten and sinks into the ignominy she deserves.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:40 PM
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4. Potentially lethal how?
It's the same bullshit we've heard for months now.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:42 PM
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10. Exactly, and it's driving independents away from McCain.
These kind of smear tactics appeal to the asshats who would vote for McCain anyway.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:46 PM
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17. It's cutting down the trust that Obama has built up.
I made more phonebanking calls this morning. You wouldn't believe how many people will say "I don't trust him".
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:52 PM
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22. Sure, I'll believe YOUR phone banking over the polls.
:eyes:
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:10 PM
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27. Her phonebanking IS an important indication that the negative message is getting out there.
I don't think it's a 'game changer' though.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:16 PM
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32. No it's not.
It's the same laughable line about using signs as proof Obama/McCain are dominating a region.

These people probably always thought this way.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:18 PM
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33. Why don't you try a little phonebanking of your own?
It's one sure way to find out the truth.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:23 PM
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36. I don't need to phonebank to know who's winning in the polls.
If, as you say, it's working, why aren't the polls showing it?

You have NO evidence that these people would have voted for Obama before the Ayers bullshit and you have no proof they didn't think this months ago. So stop speculating. :eyes:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:39 PM
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42. No, but you'd actually be helping. nt
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:15 PM
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31. Why would I lie about phonebanking?
I really hope that's not what you're saying, and I don't appreciate the smiley, either.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:25 PM
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37. I never said you were lying.
I'm saying you're using a pointless tool to prove your point.

It's no different than driving around my town, seeing a bunch of Obama signs and coming the conclusion he'll win the state. Even though no Democrat has won here since LBJ in '64.

You're not a liar, you're just using faulty logic. You don't know when or why they distrust Obama. Maybe they began months or a year ago.

So don't say this Ayers video is the reason.

:eyes:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:36 PM
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40. Maybe we can talk when you're in a better mood. nt
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:45 PM
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43. I'm in a fine mood.
I just tire of people with their doom posts.

There was a post similar a few days ago, telling us we need to give up Georgia because a poster and her hubbie drove around the state and saw hardly any Obama signs.

You can't base perception on just a small sample like that, especially without having any idea what they felt BEFORE the Ayers bullshit.

They may not have been Obama supporters ever.

So it shouldn't be a surprise if they don't trust him.

If McCain's campaign called ME, I'd say I want nothing to do with a campaign like his.

Doesn't mean I just made that decision today, though.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:41 PM
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5. I don't think it's lethal at all. I think the voters are getting sick of this.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:42 PM
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7. Doesn't it scare you to realize the kind of person they are trying to appeal to?
I think they are trying to incite violence...
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:11 PM
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28. No, they are trying to appeal to the weak, timid people who fear the Terrorists(tm) will get them
Unfortunately, this appeals even more to the Sieg Heil crowd, and it's something that will dog Obama and us all for the next (hopefully) eight years.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:44 PM
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14. But...this time it's different!! Because it means...well...Obama knew this dude...
and Obama still thinks domestic terrorism is bad...and...well, we get to say "Obama" and terror" in the same sentence!!! Yeah, that's the ticket!
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:42 PM
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6. Correction OP: McCain Launches Another Desperation Ad Today
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:38 PM
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41. I really, really hope you're right. nt
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:42 PM
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9. The John McCain approving this message line ruins every single attack ad they have
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 12:43 PM by cbc5g
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:43 PM
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11. Pathetic. Obama will handle it. He always does. nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:45 PM
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15. Is this the "big news" the "something new to talk about" that we were promised last night? NT
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:45 PM
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16. Obama just needs to release ads on Iran financing the AIP,
which Palin's husband is/was a long time member of, and of which recently Sarah herself showed support.

Then there are the accounts of McCain's temperament. He has a really short fuse, a really bad temper. I think that is TOO RISKY FOR AMERICA.

Those two alone will take all the steam out of the Ayers crap.

People are fed up with the negative campaigning. By the time McSame figures that out, the election will be over and they'll be wondering what happened.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:47 PM
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18. Obama could bring up the Keating Five, too.
I just hope has has a counterattack, and soon.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:11 PM
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29. It's already been done.
And both Obamas addressed the Ayers situation yesterday on ABC and CNN, linking McCain and Mrs. Annenberg (who created the committee Obama and Ayers sat on).
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:51 PM
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21. Yep, McCain will be sorry he went there
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:50 PM
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20. VERY lame ad
No, Americans won't say "Where's the truth, Barack?" They will say, "where's the decency, McCain?"
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Bettie Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:55 PM
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23. Plus it's a long ad
and people who believe crap like this don't have the attention span to watch the whole thing!
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:09 PM
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25. McCain will be a pariah after this election. And he deserves it.
Instead of representing mavericky straight talk bipartisanship honor, he will represent racism, division, lies, fear and hate. He won't be wanted in polite company. Serves him right.



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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:10 PM
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26. Look at the second name on this list...
http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/1b838127-b4a0-4868-9906-62f555376089.htm

She is the wife of a man who funded that "radical education board" with Ayers and Obama.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:12 PM
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30. Lethal to McCain, maybe?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:19 PM
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34. ***YAWN*** It's too long. No one's going to sit through all that except the racist fundies. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:20 PM
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35. this is fucking criminal
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 01:40 PM by spanone
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