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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:28 PM
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Poll: Mainline Christians favor Obama
WASHINGTON, Oct. 9 (UPI) -- Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has struggled to woo evangelical voters and trails Republican John McCain among the group, a poll indicates.

A survey by Faith and Public Life found that although most Christians from mainline churches support Obama, the Illinois senator is not pulling support from evangelicals.

The poll shows 68 percent of older white evangelicals favor McCain, while 25 percent say they support Obama. Among younger white evangelicals, 65 percent say they support McCain, compared to 29 percent who say they will vote for Obama.

Among mainline church members such as Presbyterians and Episcopalians, Obama leads 49 percent to 45 percent among older voters, and 47 percent to 42 percent among younger voters.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/10/09/Poll_Mainline_Christians_favor_Obama/UPI-59381223593169/
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:29 PM
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1. Translation: Sane religious people for Obama; fundie wackjobs for McLame.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:43 AM
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27. pretty much
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:29 PM
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2. The evangelical can go join the McCain/Palin Hate Rallies......
I'm sure they'll feel right at home.
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:30 PM
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3. count me as an Evangelical for Obama....
my entire family (nuclear and extended) are Evangelicals, and not a one is voting for McCain.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:58 PM
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11. Good for you!
Hate is not a Christian value.
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:30 PM
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4. Sane religious person for Obama
right here! :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:32 PM
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5. Rec'd~ Of course they do...they're the Christians who
actually believe in the teachings.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:55 PM
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10. Right. The good word instead of the egotistical head cases.
Stupid people fear smart people. Smart people confuse them.

If you truly value your religous freedom, you don't want it too entangled with politics. You want your church off the political grid.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:33 PM
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6. Big surprise...
...although it's unlikely to stop the usual Christianity-bashers here from insisting that all Christians are wingnut fundamentalists who will always vote Republican. :eyes:

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:33 PM
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7. Praise the Lord for that!!
Must be the Christians who actually READ their bibles O8)
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:33 PM
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8. google images "Lynching" and "Christian tent revival"
and see if you can tell the difference.


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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:10 PM
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18. Thank you for proving my point...
:eyes:

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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:36 PM
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19. my father use to hold tent revivals for fellow Baptist ministers
and they never looked anything like a lynching. They sat up a tent, put out folding chairs and held a service open to the public. As a child I sat on the ground and did my homework on many a spring or fall evening while I tried to shut out the noise of the service going on around me. During the summer, I would get as comfortable as I could, fan as rapid as I could and tried not to slide out of my chair from the sweat.

No I have went to a KKK rally as a protester, and it did not resemble my father's tent revivals no matter what you see on google images. My father, god rest his soul, was not always the best man he could have been but he was one of the best preachers I have ever heard. He was an Evangelist but not an Evangelical. He saw them as a cult.
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These Eyes Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:57 AM
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25. My mother is an evangelist…
and every summer when we were young she would hold tent revivals with other ministers. We lived by a large wooded area and the tent would be pitched right beside our house. So we had no excuse for not being in the service every night, all night! Your post brought back memories!
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:42 AM
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26. I don't know what you were drinking when you googled these two terms
but I googled them and there was no resemblance between the two results. I don't like organized religion and especially don't like the televised ministries, but even their pictures don't look like the ones that come up from the lynching search. completely different results.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:51 PM
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9. For a minute I thought that said "Mainlining Christians"
I was all 'wtf" for a second
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:01 PM
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12. fundys
I just had a light bulb idea. Send all the fundys to Alaska, after all they believe the rapture is coming, don't they? Let them succeed from the union, and see how they like it without all those useless big government programs. The eskimos will not like us for a while, but after all the fundys are raptured into a frozen death, we can take them back and let them have Alaska back again. I know it's goofy thought, but kind of fun on this dismal night.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:12 PM
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13. Fundamentalist and/or Evangelicals
Make up 7% of American Christians. Call the number of American Christians, X.

68% * 7% * X = 4.76% X - % of Christians who are Evangelical support for McCain
25% * 7% * X = 1.75% X - % of Christians who are Evangelical support for Obama

43.5% * 93% * X = 40.46% X - % of non-Evangelical Christian support for McCain
48% * 93% * X = 44.64% X - % of non-Evangelical Christian support for Obama

Total McCain = 45.22%
Total Obama = 46.39%

TlalocW
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TxBlue Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:16 PM
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14. Relatively sane, tongue speaking, God loving Christian here
that is praying for OBAMA '08!!!!!!
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chiefofclarinet Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:20 PM
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15. Mainline Protestant here
I think the mainline Christians are even more skewed to Obama than this poll says. Remember, Obama is a mainline Christian (United Christ of Christ). John Sidney McCain III is not baptized according to his current religion (born Episcopalian, now Southern Baptist without an adult baptism).
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:04 PM
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16. My experience this week
I had a meeting at one of the large Methodist churches this week. Now, to be fair, this congregation has always been liberal. I'm an atheist, but I always admired that congregation because I feel like they do understand Jesus was a liberal and they try to live that way.

But still, I wasn't prepared for seeing just about everybody who was hanging around the church had on an Obama pin, an Obama sweatshirt, or an Obama tee -- and this was just another day at the church. It was not an Obama rally or anything.

Real Christians understand that a lot of evil has been done by McCain and his pals while cloaking themselves in the protection of religion. I'm thinking this factor is much bigger than has been reported.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:51 PM
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20. I saw two Obama bumper stickers at my Methodist church last week
and when Obama left Wright's church, our church extended an invitation for him to come and visit.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:06 AM
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28. I should also mention, this is not mainly a black congregation
The folks I saw that evening were mostly white. I'd guess the congregation is about 60-70% white at that church.

Maybe that says something. These are people who moved beyond racial barriers long ago and live in a colorblind way.
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:09 PM
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17. k&r
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:54 PM
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21. Me...

Don't believe in anything, but go to church, read the bible...my wife IS a believer....she (we) are Methodist

She will be voting for Obama...
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:13 AM
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22. K & R
I wish the media would cover this.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:44 AM
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23. kick
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:55 AM
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24. Me and my whole family are Christians
and we are ALL voting for Obama! My wife and I voted for him in the state primary already, cant wait to do it again.

Don't let the rethuglicans fool you into thinking all Christians are drinking their poison kool aid, it ain't true.

GOBAMA!!!
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