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The Night Owl

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:11 AM
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Crazed Pastor claims Palins cried upon hearing message he gave them in Ohio...

Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 08:38 AM by The Night Owl

Pastor Mark Arnold claims that he travelled to a McCain-Palin rally in Lebanon, Ohio to deliver a message to the candidates- a message he claims is from God. I suspect that the pastor's account is entirely or mostly a fabrication but it is interesting nonetheless because it gives a glimpse of the kind of fanaticism we are up against...

PASTOR GIVES MESSAGE TO JOHN McCAIN, TODD & SARAH PALIN

On Tuesday, Sept. 9th, the McCain / Palin Bus came through a little town called, Lebanon, Ohio.

The LORD allowed me to go to the Rally giving them a message that He wanted me to personally deliver.

...

Sunday Night - a burden hit me that would only shake me to my knees - I prayed and wept for our Nation. Never has my heart been so broken before God. I literally interceded for these wonderful people who do not deserve all the hate against them. The GOD-Haters are going to try everything to stop them, but they will not succeed! God is not pleased with the "bashing" in the News of this "Anointed" person. He has called her for this time! I promised God that I would pray and hold them up in prayer. I would "listen" out and be mindful of where they were. The following day is important in this time-line... because I didn't even know until God spoke to me...

...

It was at this moment Sarah Palin, reached out for me to help her up and as I was assisting her to stand was now face to face with her and GOD said, "Open up your Mouth and I will fill it."

Here is what came out...

"God wants you to know that you are a present day Esther!" {She immediately began to cry}!

http://www.agreeinprayer.com

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C_U_L8R

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:12 AM
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1. Even God can't help the GOP out of this mess

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MercutioATC

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:13 AM
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2. "Open up your Mouth and I will fill it."?????

Jesus, it's too early in the morning for this stuff...

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Wetzelbill

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:16 AM
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6. That sounds like some "Nailin' Paylin" dialogue

Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 08:23 AM by Wetzelbill

:)

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jakem

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:21 AM
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9. I dunno, sometimes it is a nice way to start the day!

oh, you mean the story, dont you...

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JohnMcCant2008

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:14 AM
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3. Thank God I'm an atheist.

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mscuedawg

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:19 AM
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7. How can you thank God if you dont believe in Him???

Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 08:20 AM by mscuedawg

Please dont contain all Christians with these religious nuts...

Someone posted similarly to this yesterday and a woman wrote...

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts. :hi:

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Wetzelbill

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:22 AM
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11. I believe that's the point of the poster's joke

:)

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mscuedawg

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:25 AM
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12. I got that...but thanks anywhoo

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JohnMcCant2008

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:40 AM
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19. I am an atheist but firmly believe everyone has a right to their beliefs. BUT freedom of religion

Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 08:41 AM by JohnMcCant2008

is also freedom FROM religion.

I get offended though when believers (aka Palin and her nutbag followers) decide it is their mission to save me, our country or anybody outside the walls of their own home and church.

We have fallen away from our Constitutionally mandated separation of church and state through years of fundie and right-wing agenda. This needs to change.

That is all.

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mscuedawg

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:51 AM
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22. You're preaching to the quier....

;) You are absolutely right...and YES, Virginia, there are Christians who are on the same page...you just encountered one of them...:hi:

The religious right wing have given Christians a bad reputation by "guilt by association"... If you're so inclined to read a post I made yesterday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7387696&mesg_id=7387696

PS I wasnt inviting you to church....LOL

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JohnMcCant2008

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:55 AM
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23. I read your post - nice! I am all for beliefs that enrich your life and don't try to destroy others

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mscuedawg

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:08 AM
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26. Awww...thanks!!! I'm truly glad you read it...

FAITH is believing in the unknown and the unexplained that gives me a comforting feeling that there is a better place after my trials and tribs on earth...THAT is where alot of people, IMO, miss the point!

:hug:

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JohnMcCant2008

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Fri Oct-10-08 10:01 AM
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34. Absolutely mscuedog! - I am a liberal and a freethinker - I will be posting an "atheists for Obama"

thread later this morning when my son goes for his nap. I'd love for you to read it and give me your opinion........

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mscuedawg

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Fri Oct-10-08 11:43 AM
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37. I would love to!!! Please be sure to let me know when its there!!!

Thanks!!

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JohnMcCant2008

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Fri Oct-10-08 12:46 PM
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41. Posted my thread - here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7398974

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Bill219

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:14 AM
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4. Holy Crap!!!

These people really freak me out:wtf:

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Wetzelbill

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:15 AM
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5. Yeah that's viable

Esther would do anything for her people. Palin's a pathologically lying, vindictive, policy lightweight who abuses power, makes women pay for rape kits and allows wolves to be cruelly murdered.

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cap

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:20 AM
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8. I think Esther is looking down at these people

and saying "Leave me outta this!. My story is one of liberating the oppressed not being an oppressor myself. Get it right folks"

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Wetzelbill

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:21 AM
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10. the delusions of grandeur these people have is completely insane

Creepy stuff.

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54anickel

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:33 AM
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17. But they believed they ARE the oppressed. How do you begin to tackle that kind of self-obsession?

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cap

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:00 AM
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24. Esther says, "Get it right, folks...."

"Some of you aren't oppressed at all.... Stop Whining! Others of you who really are oppressed have just got to get it together and stop looking at the oppressors as deliverers. Moses didn't go back to Pharaoh and say hey, there's a bunch of gold brickers working on your pyramids that are making life harder for the rest of us. He told Pharaoh to let my people go. I didn't go to the king and talk about the goldbrickers. I told the King to save my people. I knew which end was up and which end was simply the back end of a moose"."

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Labors of Hercules

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:30 AM
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14. but GOD chose HER!!!

He did! I saw him! He came out of the woods, tapped her on the shoulder while she was gutting a moose and said "SARAH, YOU ARE MY CHOSEN ONE. YOU WILL BRING FORTH THE END OF DAYS. NOW GO! (I need to take a leak)."

It was amazing. :wow:

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Spritz57

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:27 AM
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13. I wonder what the religious spin will be. . .

when they lose? I know they can't entertain the notion they are wrong but I wonder if in their religious zeal to claim insight to their version of the Almight, how this will play when they lose. I know for some they will think they didn't work hard enough thus blame themselves, but I hold out hope for others who do some soul searching that this moment might serve as an epiphany and thus be enlightened.

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Wetzelbill

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:31 AM
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16. that Obama is the anti-Christ and this needed to happen

So we could have Armageddon.

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Spritz57

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:41 AM
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20. That is a plausible unfortunate outcome, seeing this

political event as a precursor to the rapture. For the Pentecostalists, I think you are correct for the most part but there are terrific theological differences between say, Pentecostalists and Baptists both of which are collectively grouped into the religious right.

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Tarc

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:30 AM
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15. So Palin is a modern-day Esther? Not sure if that's such a ringing endorsement

A peculiarity of Persian law that also occurs in the Book of Daniel is that royal edicts of this sort could not be reversed, even by the king--by siding with the Jews instead of their persecutors the King presumably dissuaded any pogroms. The King also issued a second edict allowing the Jews to arm themselves, and this precipitated a series of reprisals by the Jews against their enemies. This fight began on the 13th of Adar, the date the Jews were originally slated to be exterminated. Esther and the Jews went on to kill not only their would be executioners but also their wives and children, this altogether meaning three hundred killed in Susa alone, seventy-five thousand killed (fifteen thousand in the Greek biblical account) in the rest of the empire.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther

So if we follow the analogy, Palin wins the vice-presidency and will lead the formerly persecuted (i.e. right-wing christians) in a frenzied revenge killing of their persecutors (i.e. the rest of us) and their children.

Interesting. and by 'interesting' I mean 'thoroughly bat-shit crazy'.

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Wetzelbill

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:43 AM
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21. yup

not cool. :)

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TornadoTN

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Fri Oct-10-08 08:33 AM
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18. "Open up your Mouth and I will fill it" - This is a Benny Hinn moment if I ever saw one

I'm confident that I wouldn't want to worship a god that speaks in those terms, let alone chooses whacko out of touch fundamentalists who go against the teaching of this particular gods son to deliver the message to me.

This

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hamsterjill

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:04 AM
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25. This offends me as a Christian

First of all, I respect anyone's right to the religious convictions of their choice or to have no religious convictions at all if they so choose. That's what this country should be about - acceptance and tolerance.

But this kind of stuff really offends me. To me it is sacrilegious that anyone dare say they speak for God. I absolutely hate the fact that these freaks have highjacked Christianity and are trying to turn it into a reason to hate other people. That is certainly not what it means to me.

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The Night Owl

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:10 AM
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27. I hear you.

Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 09:10 AM by The Night Owl

Though the Prophetic movement is based on Christianity, it is, in my opinion, very far removed from it. I think the key difference between mainstream Christians and Prophetic Christians is that the Prophetic Christians view Christ as something which can constantly be redefined by whatever ideas they get in their heads.

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Beacool

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:13 AM
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28. "Open up your Mouth and I will fill it."??????

Must.....erase.....naughty......thoughts.....

:spank:

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The Night Owl

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:21 AM
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29. Well, if the pastor thing doesn't work out, Mark Arnold could try his hand at being a pornographer.

:evilgrin:

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Beacool

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:34 AM
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32. LOL!!!!

:rofl:

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Mad_Dem_X

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:26 AM
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30. Daaayum

That is just so over the top, I don't even know what to say. :crazy:

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The Night Owl

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:31 AM
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31. Just another day in the land of Queen Esther. {EOM}

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MyNameGoesHere

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Fri Oct-10-08 09:39 AM
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33. Of course she is Esther

wiki entry.

As early as the eighteenth century, the lack of clear corroboration of any of the details of the story of the Book of Esther with what was known of Persian history from classical sources led some scholars] to doubt that the book was historically accurate. It was argued that the form of the story seems closer to that of a romance than a work of history, and that many of the events depicted therein are implausible and unlikely.

A made up story. implausible and unlikely describes her perfectly.

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ladjf

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Fri Oct-10-08 10:01 AM
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35. Is this a fabrication?

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rateyes

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Fri Oct-10-08 10:04 AM
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36. IMO, Vashti was a much better woman than Esther. nt

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progressivebydesign

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Fri Oct-10-08 11:45 AM
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38. I call this Evangelical Fan Fiction. The guy is insane. n/t

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renate

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Fri Oct-10-08 12:07 PM
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39. Evangelical fan fiction... bwahahahahaha!

:rofl:

You're absolutely right! Thanks for the laugh!

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The Night Owl

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Fri Oct-10-08 12:18 PM
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40. The difference between Pastor Arnold's fan fiction and typical fan fiction is that...

Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 12:18 PM by The Night Owl

...the intended audience for Arnold's fan fiction considers it to be factual.

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BlueIdaho

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Fri Oct-10-08 12:49 PM
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42. Well that's one way to get some national ink I suppose... nm.

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