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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:30 PM
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Here's what I don't get...do McCain's supporters WANT to pay taxes on their health care benefits?
How can anyone see that as a positive?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:32 PM
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1. I don't get it either
I thought they didn't want to pay taxes period.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:32 PM
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2. All they hear is 'you'll get $5,000'
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:34 PM
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6. Except they don't realize that the $5,000 goes directly to their
Edited on Sat Oct-11-08 08:35 PM by bluethruandthru
insurance company...not them. McCain always fails to mention that part.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:35 PM
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7. I'm seeing commercials here in WA pointing out how terrible McCain's ideas on health care are.
Washington's definetly "Safe Obama," but they were on a national network; either way, they're a beautiful site to see.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:33 PM
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3. McCain's supporters won't be the ones paying the taxes...
They buy their own insurance and shelter their incomes overseas, so what the fuck do they care?

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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:33 PM
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4. They get the tax credits to find their own
The libertarians think that getting tax credits and buying from the private market would lead to more competition and an efficient market. It has some big flaws, but that is what they believe.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:34 PM
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5. I don't get it either
Hell, they should WANT their taxes raised to pay for their goddamn war in Iraq! How dare they suggest their taxes shouldn't be raised, when we are "at war?"

Who do they think should pay for their precious war? Their own grandchildren?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:35 PM
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8. Psssst....
Edited on Sat Oct-11-08 08:36 PM by MercutioATC
At the current value of the dollar, the $5000 credit is actually a deal.

It will eventually be a negative as inflation increases over the years unless it's indexed, but it's a savings now.

(on edit) Yeah, it ignores the issue of pre-existing conditions, but cashwise, it's a savings for now.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:37 PM
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9. They don't think. Thats the issue...the rich ones don't care because
they already have their money safely off shore...the poor one's don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. The rest are racist assholes.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:38 PM
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10. The association is too minute ...
I of course do NOT want that ... but the Kool Aid drinkers arent going to listen ....

Democrats = high tax + high spenders

Republicans = low taxes + low spenders

The TRUTH is that Republicans = low taxes (for the rich) + regular taxes (for middle and lower classes) + low spenders (beneficial government spending) + HIGH spenders (anytime they can fill the pockets of their high falutin friends) + HIGH costs to the Joe Sixpacks and Hockey Moms being gouged by the same rapacious high falutin friends ....

Honestly: I would rather pay government to do something like public schooling and infrastructure development than pay the oil companies to fill their own pockets ....

Building schools and roads and bridges puts MORE people to work than letting oil executives steal our hard earned money ...

They believe a lie .... They arent sharp enough to see around it ...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:47 PM
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11. They don't care. They don't want gay marriage or a Muslim president.
They do and think as Rush tells them to do.

Who cares if they have lost their jobs, or have no health care, or their kids can't get loans for college.

Rush will guide them. Rush shows them The Way.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:02 PM
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12. Recent poll internals show Obama winning on the health care voters about 70 to 25
Obama ran a brilliant strategy for his health care program. He waited until it was clear that McCain was about to go on the attack, personally. Then Obama unleashed a health care offensive and McCain never responded. Even during the V.P. debate Palin had to be prodded by Gwen Ifil to defend McCain's health care plan.

Also, Obama benefits from the lengthy Dem primary season. To use an analogy from FOX News, that channel often presents a very conservative view and a moderately conservative view. The viewer is in effect led to believe that the best view is somewhere in between the two. That's what happened during the Dem primary season. The nation was comparing Hillary's more progressive health care plan to Obama's plan. It was just assumed that the best health care plan was somewhere in between the two of them, and that the Republican health care plan was inferior. How many health care advocates on the right do you see? Nobody with the passion of say Elizabeth Edwards. The McCain campaign dropped the ball here. Somewhere around 13% of voters in these battleground states say that health care is the number one issue to them, and McCain is losing these voters by margins approaching 40 to 50 percentage points.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:19 PM
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13. Here is an example of McCain supporters, Caribou Barbie
had a GOP fundraiser in Pittsburgh Saturday. About 200 people attended for $1000 you get in the door, for $10000 you get your picture taken with Barbie and for $25000 you could get into a round-table chat with the Bimbo. So what do they care about health care?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08285/919255-176.stm
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:20 PM
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14. They would rather ANYTHNIG than have a black man as President....
Don't ask me why - I've never really understood it myself. But I recognize the fact of the matter nevertheless.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:22 PM
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15. They're so foamed at the mouth they don't know WHAT they're supporting
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:25 PM
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16. McCain supporters = stupid = vote against their own interests
Read "What's the Matter with Kansas" ...Pukes create these false flag "morality" issues like gay marriage, gun control and abortion, which they never intend to actually DO anything about, knowing that will get the stupids off the couch and to the polls.

Hightower says it well... "When everybody does better, everybody does better." That is lost on pukes.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 09:30 PM
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17. It depends on the supporter, Some would rather do that than pay taxes for what they think is another
huge government give away aka Obama's plan

Others make so much money that the tax on their health care is much smaller than increasing the percentage on the top brackets

Many don't get the benefit from their employer, wealthy self employed types won't see a tax increase here.

The rest plan on investing even more heavily in insurance companies, they will make lots of money off the McCain give away to the insurance companies at the cost of the tax payers
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