-- William Ayers email I got today--I found interesting--

I just posted this to another thread, it's an email I got today about the Ayers thing, and I found it interesting....not sure who put it together though...



Subject: Bill Ayers

Hi Everyone, I was curious about the facts on Bill Ayers, and all the
accusations made about his ties with Obama. So I found what I was looking
for and thought I'd share..I actually like this guy..

And just to add a few thoughts..Who wasn't a radical in the 60's and 70's
when it came to stopping the war in Vietnam. No one was hurt, that wasn't
the intention as with your typical "terrorist." Give me a break people,
seriously

10 things to know about Bill Ayers
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October 12, 2008

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH AND CHRIS FUSCO Staff Reporters
John McCain is hammering Barack Obama about his ties to Chicago educator
Bill Ayers, co-founder of the Weather Underground, a group that used
violence in the 1960s and 1970s to try to end the Vietnam War.

For a week now, the McCain-Palin ticket has been making Ayers an issue. And
the attacks continued Friday, with an ad that calls Ayers the "leader of a
terrorist group that bombed the U.S. Capitol." The ad also says "Obama's
first campaign was launched at a gathering at Mr. Ayers' home."


Bill Ayers has declined to comment to the Sun-Times or any other media since
Sen. Hillary Clinton first raised his name in the Democratic primary.
(Sun-Times files)


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But is everything the Republicans are saying true? Here's a look at the
Obama-Ayers relationship.

1. Was Ayers the leader of a terrorist group?

The FBI labeled the Weather Underground "a domestic terrorist group" whose
members took credit for bombings of the U.S. Capitol, Pentagon and other
government buildings. The bombings were designed to cause property damage,
not hurt people. Ayers never has been accused of killing anybody.

But three Weather Underground members accidentally killed themselves while
making bombs in New York City in 1970. In 1981, two police officers and a
security guard were killed when other members of the group committed an
armed robbery.

2. How long was Ayers "underground"?

Ayers and his wife, Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, were on the
lam 10 years before surrendering in 1980.

3. Were they ever convicted of "terrorism" charges?

No. Ayers faced federal riot and bombing-conspiracy charges, but those
charges were dropped because of illegal wiretaps, break-ins and mail
interceptions by authorities. Dohrn served less than a year behind bars for
non-bombing activities tied to the group.

4. How are Ayers and Dohrn viewed now?

At least before this campaign, they were mainly seen as respected college
professors. After getting his doctorate in education at Columbia University,
Ayers joined the University of Illinois, where he gained a national
reputation pushing innovative -- some say controversial -- approaches to
educating at-risk youth. Dohrn has a national reputation for pushing reforms
of the juvenile justice system. Ayers has published 15 books. He sits on
civic boards with Mayor Daley, who in 1997 awarded Ayers the city's "Citizen
of the Year" award. Ayers and Dohrn live in Hyde Park, not far from the
Obamas.

5. So how well do Ayers and Obama know each other?

Ayers and Obama served on separate boards associated with the Chicago
Annenberg Challenge, an education-reform group that Obama began chairing in
March 1995 and continued to work with through 2000. Ayers served on the
Chicago School Reform Collaborative, which made recommendations to the board
on grant awards during those years. Ayers and Obama occasionally would see
each other in those roles.

Also, Ayers served alongside Obama between December 1999 and December 2002
on the board of the not-for-profit Woods Fund of Chicago. That board met
four times a year, and members would see each other at dinners the group
hosted.

The RNC's statement that "Obama's first campaign was launched at a gathering
at Mr. Ayers' home" stems from a 1995 "meet-and-greet" coffee that Ayers and
Dohrn held for Obama at their home when Obama was making his first run for
the Illinois Senate. Obama's presidential campaign has described the event
as an opportunity for Ayers and Dohrn to introduce Obama to their neighbors.

In 2001, Ayers gave $200 to Obama's campaign. A year ago, the two met
walking through the neighborhood where they both live.

6. How does Ayers respond to the Republicans' charges?

He doesn't. He has declined to comment to the Sun-Times or any other media
since Sen. Hillary Clinton first raised him as a potential problem for Obama
in April during the Democratic primary.

7. What does Obama say about Ayers?

During a primary debate, Obama underplayed his relationship with Ayers:
"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in
Chicago, who I know, and who I have not received some official endorsement
from," Obama said. "He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular
basis. The notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who
engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old somehow
reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense."

8. Is it fair for McCain to criticize Obama on this issue?

Factcheck.org has this take: "Voters may differ in how they see Ayers, or
how they see Obama's interactions with him. We're making no judgment calls
on those matters. What we object to are the McCain-Palin campaign's attempts
to sway voters -- in ads and on the stump -- with false and misleading
statements about the relationship, which was never very close. And Ayers is
more than a former 'terrorist,' he's also a well-known figure in the field
of education."

9. Has Ayers ever apologized for what he did with the Weather Underground?

Not exactly. In 2001, Ayers told the Sun-Times he regretted that "people
were hurt, that three of my dear friends were killed, that we were stupid,
immature, intolerant and unwise. I regret that I hurt people's feelings." He
did not regret "throwing myself as wholeheartedly as I could figure out into
opposition to war and to the system of racial injustice."

A review of Ayers' memoir Fugitive Days that appeared in the New York Times
on Sept. 11, 2001, quoted Ayers saying, "I don't regret setting bombs. I
feel we didn't do enough." Three days after the terrorist attacks, Ayers
clarified: "My memoir is, from start to finish, a condemnation of terrorism
. . ."

10. Are all former alleged terrorists/radicals shunned?

No. Former IRA bomber Gerry Adams is welcomed at the White House as a
peacemaker. Former PLO leader Yasser Arafat was too. Former Students for a
Democratic Society member and Ayers friend Tom Hayden was elected to the
California State Assembly. Former Black Panther Bobby Rush is a congressman
representing Chicago, as is former Puerto Rican independence activist Luis
Gutierrez.

If you remember that time, how crazy it was. Three students shot and killed at Kent State by the National Guard...it makes the Ayers types seem like pranksters, not terrorists.

it was the age of them. I don't dwell on it too much, but thought it interesting that someone took the time to put together the facts and email them out. My friends all know not to send me lies and bullshit, so the title of this pissed me off, until I read it. I thought for sure it would be bogus, LOL.

and it is often taken out of context. Here's his own comments on the matter and some others:

1. Regrets. I’m often quoted saying that I have “no regrets.” This is not true. For anyone paying attention—and I try to stay wide-awake to the world around me all/ways—life brings misgivings, doubts, uncertainty, loss, regret. I’m sometimes asked if I regret anything I did to oppose the war in Viet Nam, and I say “no, I don’t regret anything I did to try to stop the slaughter of millions of human beings by my own government.” Sometimes I add, “I don’t think I did enough.” This is then elided: he has no regrets for setting bombs and thinks there should be more bombings.

The illegal, murderous, imperial war against Viet Nam was a catastrophe for the Vietnamese, a disaster for Americans, and a world tragedy. Many of us understood this, and many tried to stop the war. Those of us who tried recognize that our efforts were inadequate: the war dragged on for a decade, thousands were slaughtered every week, and we couldn’t stop it. In the end the U.S. military was defeated and the war ended, but we surely didn’t do enough.

2. Terror. Terrorism—according to both official U.S. policy and the U.N.—is the use or threat of random violence to intimidate, frighten, or coerce a population toward some political end. This means, of course, that terrorism is not the exclusive province of a cult, a religious sect, or a group of fanatics. It can be any of these, but it can also be—and often is—executed by governments and states. A bombing in a café in Israel is terrorism, and an Israeli assault on a neighborhood in Gaza is terrorism; the September 11 attacks were acts of terrorism, and the U.S. bombings in Viet Nam for a decade were acts of terrorism. Terrorism is never justifiable, even in a just cause—the Union fight in the 1860’s was just, for example, but Shernan’s March to the Sea was indefensible terror. I’ve never advocated terrorism, never participated in it, never defended it. The U.S. government, by contrast, does it routinely and defends the use of it in its own cause consistently.

3. Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good—must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary. We need to bring our imaginations together and forge an unbreakable human alliance. We need to unite to transform and save ourselves as we fight to change the world and save humanity.

http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/

Glad this was posted. Been looking for some responses from Ayers. Would also like to hear what the Anneburgs think about this. I am sure, as has been reported, there are many republicans telling McCain to let this go.

Many famous people appear to know him if everyone comes to his support then they can't all label them terrorist.