So, are we depressed and freaking out today?

Going to put my No W t shirt on and my Women for Kerry dog tags and I'm going shopping. Not to buy mind you just to advertise. :hi:

We can get back, but the Democratic 527's have to pull out all of the stops and go supernegative on Bush's strongest point, 9/11.

It's time for the truth on the subject. Bush presided over the single biggest military and intelligence deabcle in history, and he needs to be held accountable now.

to give 'em a little perspective and balance.

www.whatthebleep.com

I second that.

you too?

That's my reality!

Ready and willing to do my part. Ready to WORK.

But puzzled and amazed and a little angry that so many people can't seem to figure out that their big "hero" is screwing them.

(well, threads) when it isn't.

I'm both irritated and strangely confident...

...that includes newly registered voters going in droves for Bush nationwide is the day I'll slit my wrist.

In the meantime, millions of new fired-up voters are just waiting to cast their first vote. I just hope this kinda stuff doesn't get to THEM. That worries me more.

at Jones Beach. Right by the ocean.

The Parrotheads are phlocking out there right now and setting up their tailgate parties.

Gotta blow off a lot of steam.

It's back to the campaign phone bank trenches afterwards.

:party::party::party:

and seeing that little repug shit kicking that girl at the convention just makes me wanna work a little harder, win a little bigger, and gloat a little more afterwards.

RL

:)

peace

as well as ups, and not be a pariah on this board. I don't post gloomy threads, and I trust Zogby more than other pollsters, but I wish these polls were better because the stakes could not be higher -- and I will NOT float down that river in Egypt, with my eyes and ears closed.

On edit: I posted, and just kicked up, the "feisty" Kerry thread from the frontpage of the New York Times. I like Kerry more and more. I'm trying here --

and the swiftboat boys have spent and what little they have to show for it.. oh yes -tomorrow five of my family are going to the du chicago meet-up...

:toast:

a lot of depressed and freaking out people here. They've been that way for two days.

That dems always refuse to acknowledge that the electorate out there wants to see us as strong and decisive; we need to really pummel Bush* to expose what a fraud he is. If we don't do it, who will?

she might be the queen of sleaze but she sells books. . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2309063

this cheered me up enormously !

There is no such thing, at this date, of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press...The business of the journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of Mannon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possiblilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.

--John Swinton (former Chief of Staff, New York Times, 1953)

Frankly, Kerry could be trailing by 30 points now as long as he is a single vote ahead on November 2. I believe that Kerry knows what he is up against between now and then, and that he has a plan for dealing with it. He surely realizes what is at stake in this election, and that he is the only person in the position to do something about it.

Too busy to freak out about polls.

..I've seen the Psyops/Karl Rove operated media do this time and time and time again.

I know their MO. I'm not buying it. Not swallowing their glass of piss.

Polls are useless when they come from the media, gallup (all of whom are in cahoots with Repigs). It's nice to see Kerry ahead, but that, also, is meaningless - 'causes apathy of a different flavour. It's all a manipulation.

Zogby is the ONLY poll I even remotely sort of trust. That's the only one I look to for trends.

I'm amused, and simultaneously disgusted with all the whining and hysterics here. It only feeds their machine and it will become part of a self-fulfulling prophesy if we don't cut it out - take a deep breath and focus. We're just feeding them ammo. Write letters to your local paper, renew your ACLU subscription. Send $ to the DNC or MoveON. DO SOMETHING POSITIVE. SAY something positive to and about Kerry - or do you think the man all of us here would vote for for President has nothing positive about him we can talk about?

If so, we got bigger problems and we may as well just pack it in right now. I am NOT willing to do that.

Kerry is out there KICKING ASS and taking names. Has anyone noticed? why aren't we talking about that? Send e-mails, post the press releases far and wide!! Spread the word!

Jeeeeeze...

to fight.

if you post bad news or criticism you're freaking and depressed. Get with the program WM.

and as we know now, all his votes weren't counted.
Those voters aren't going to Bush and Bush by his
actions and lies have pissed off more people. He
has a record now...

Kerry/Edwards will win, but every vote still counts
because some still won't be counted....(Nader voters,
take heed)

energy/bazazz to overcome this Disaster called Republicanism. They have morphed from a benign entity to a National Cancer.

Like Bill Clinton, I'm looking for a renewed heart
in America on Nov. 3rd.

But I am shaking my head in disbelief that there is so much willful ignorance.

I'm ready to dig in and get to work.

If the polls give the repukes false belief that they are ahead, then they are doing us a service. It means the evil admin won't do anything vile to get the upper hand, they will not panic and pull out a tragedy from their bag of tricks.

Nothing, nothing at all should make us give up, the polls should just make us more determined.

At best, I am just tired of the arm chair quarterbacks bickering about how the kerry campaign doesn't know what it is doing.

WE CANNOT leave this election up to the campaign alone, we have a responsibility to get out and canvass, get the truth out and get the votes.

I say quit whining and get to work! This is OUR election to lose, we are responsible, we most act and we must work and work hard until November 2, 2004.

My sky isn't falling - my determination and resolve are strong.

A friend of mine's 6 year old was watching the weed that would be king's speech, when he was going on and on with the lies, she looked at her dad and said, "but daddy, he is lying. God won't like that, he won't win." That was a 6 year old, there are others that heard him and know he is lying and will not vote for him.

You start looking for the writing on the wall.

and that turned into a disaster, followed by many apologies. Daja Vu all over again?

..and not because the right wing has been taken over by lying thugs. I've known that for sometime, and it just makes me angry. What frightens me is that we no longer have a fourth estate in this country. (Remember, the People's Watchdog?) We have infotainment hosts who are very pleasant and pretty, and dare not ask difficult questions for fear of losing their very nice jobs.
There's much chatter here about how Kerry is handling his campaign, but I believe that we are unrealistic if we expect that he can shoot down every lying attack. If he spends an enormous amount of energy debunking Mssrs French, Thurlow, O'Neill and all, we will start complaining that he's not dealing with the issues, and rightly so. Vetting smears is the job of the press corps, and we no longer have one. I believe that a majority of Americans, IF EQUIPPED WITH ALL THE INFORMATION, will choose Kerry. But corporate power (media and other), right wing ideologues and religious bigots intend to keep most of us ignorant and afraid. Didja notice that W said in his speech the other night that "Government" can be a good thing, when it's on "our" side? It's called Fascism, and they're one Supreme Court Justice away from making it permanent.

Seemed like the thing to do.

<burp>

Having been through this too many times before, it seems like once again the Democratc Milquetoast Mold is going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Kerry had everything going for him and he blew it. He is a much better man than Bush, and he let those creeps beat him up. And his campaign has refused to harness the huge amount of energy and passion on our side. Instead he is letting the "same old, same old" mentality of tepid centrism run his campaign in an election where the issues are starker then ever.

We need a big dose of Dean style Progressive Populism with a positive tone to fight the GOP's Fascist Populism.

There is no shoe-in for us, and there never was.

Welcome to the real world, where its more likely that we'll lose than that we'll win. Now its time to get to work.

Just because I'm aware - and always have been - that its very likely Bush will lie, cheat, hate and steal his way back into power doesn't mean I'm not committed to trying to go against the odds.

But what I don't know is a bunch of mindless, brainless, meaningless positive slogan ism that ignores the seriousness of the situation. Not meaning to name you directly with that, cause I don't think that applies , but generally speaking.

I voted for "freaking out". :shrug:

And...I have certainly been verging on the hysterical, mostly out of sheer frustration at the total ignorance of the media, and the news about the Time and Newsweek polls. If the stakes weren't so high, it would be a different issue.

Posters on this thread have helped to calm my nerves. <Whew!>

You guys are right: It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. Thank God for DUers..and thank God for DU.

:kick::kick::kick:

this country are utter fucking fools, and about to flush us all, that's no reason to be depressed.

... right?

These polls are bullshit. The media knows it. CNN knows it, Time knows it, Newsweek knows it, but the people are going to believe this shit. They are gonna believe that 50-something percent of this country wants to vote for the man who has run this country into the ground and wants to drill another dry hole to dump us all in.

I'm fucking pissed at how our media has been hijacked and don't even bother with the pretense of being non-partisan anymore.

YOu started the thread, what say you?

bad.:hangover: I don't think I can weigh in with anything of much substance today.

The Sky is Falling!

The Sky is Falling!

But as for the campaign...nope. All this past week did for me was throw some kindling on the fire under my ass. I haven't felt a bit of despair and depression.

The media polls mean little- for a ton of reasons- though many people will freak out over them, despite that fact.

Mostly I think that we've been seeing validation by very credible sources like Susan Estrich and Bob Sommersby, to name a few, of what some posters have been warning about since before the convention when the Kerry camp halted so called Bush bashing and 'took the high road.' That approach is a proven loser- and this election is too important to lose.

Estrich goes so far as to intimate that "many of my Democrat friends have decided to stop talking to the campaign, and start putting money together independently."

No sense in talking to a stubborn, inflexible top down organization, they figure- which is worrisome and brings back bad memories.

I wasn't under the impression that Bush's numbers would continue to sink during the Republican Convention. I also didn't watch it and have been avoiding TV and political news as much as possible until things get back to normal. There's a long way to go and a LOT can happen.

I just broke up with my boyfriend of 3 years and it's much harder than I thought it was going to be, even though it probably was a long time coming.

But I think there is a chance we might get back together.



About Shrub and Co.

Hell NO I'm not depressed or freaking out.

His true colors are going show big time soon.

Just wait and see.

nothing to see here, move along!

I don't buy the Time poll. Even if it were true, Kerry does best in the coming-from-behind position.

No time to get freaked out or despressed.

**maybe painting too much, can't spell at all today

the paint fumes from my "low odor" primer is killing me. Or making me high.

At any rate, I've inhaled wayyyyy too many fumes to be depressed :evilgrin:

had been better planned. Kerry was using note crads, got the baseball gamne score wrong and worst of all failed to get coverage. Stations tuning out conveyed "this isn't that important."

A five minute speech with well focused words would have been better. I still don't understant the "This is a wakeup call." means. He said it and then moved on to other issues.

Flame me if you must, but Kerry can do better -- he must. To break tradition and hold a rally means we have to nail the opportunity and make it clear to those watching on TV why tradition was set aside.

I'm still confident that Kerry will win but I am extremely angry at the Republicans and their sleezy tactics. More frustrating is that they seem to be getting away with it.

Their media mouthpieces are aiding and abetting these thugs. I guess it's because the media is so "liberal."

Politics seems to be a lot dirtier since the right-wing tried to take down President Clinton. They know they can get away with it so now they're embolden.

Somebody needs to step on them -- HARD.

They will stop at nothing to win this election so we need to be tough and focused on helping Kerry/Edwards prevail against these neanderthal Republicans.

GEORGIA BULLDAWGS!!!

Woof!!

I ain't depressed.

:bounce:

husband - cried my eyes out - called him - bascically said he never loved me - only sent me beautiful loving cards because he knew I was depressed about not having a job.

I then went to my local candidates' house and did door-to-door. Then I came home and cried my eyes out again.

Can anyone top that?

A man asked for a Kerry sticker. Said he was a Republican but was fed up with the way things were going. It was a good sign; our first visitor!

I'm ready and raring to fight for this election. Not the least bit depressed.

http://www.republicansforkerry04.com
http://www.anotherrepublicansforkerry.com

There could be more.

There's no doubt they're for real

I'm still alive and:kick:.

but I am a bit tired today.

....when the convention stuff has setlled down and Kerry, hopefully, gets his shit together.