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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:28 PM
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Help! I'm surrounded by idiots!
We had two couples over for dinner tonight, all friends we have known for years. Somehow, the subject of the election came up. I mentioned my fear that Obama needs a greater spread in the polls, because we have a lot of closet racists in this country still.

My friend's wife looked at me and said, "Obama isn't black, he's a muslim!" She then went on a tear about all the reasons he's not really a citizen, he's an arab, etc., etc.

We've never seen eye to eye politically, which is fine by me, but tonight I finally realized what a complete racist, bigoted idiot this woman is.

OK, rant over.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:29 PM
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1. There's no reasoning with them.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:29 PM
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2. So what happened after that??

Did you argue with her? kick her out? ignore it?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:32 PM
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5. I said,
"I can't believe you would buy or spread that kind of crap," and I went into the kitchen and washed the dinner dishes. No need to ruin the evening for everyone else.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:36 PM
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13. Mayhap
punch her in the face?

I mean, inquiring minds wanna know...

Of course, inquiring about Reverend Wright seems the best follow up. Let her rant about how crazy and reverse-bigoted Wright is... and his church... and then ask her about her opinion of how reverends fit into the Islamic "Church" hierarchy... and maybe probe to see if Reverends are part of the Sunni or Shi'ite Islamic tradition, and then maybe set up a trap and if the answer is Shi'ite, ask if reverends have a lot of political sway in Saudi Arabia (soundly Sunni country), or if the answer is Sunni, reverse the question to iranian ties.

If, by this point said woman has not noticed that she is retarded... you might suggest that she should really drop a line to Lieberman's office, asking for some clarifications, since Lieberman seems to like to dedicate himself to trying to make right-leaning idiots sound less retarded....
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occe Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:30 PM
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3. Wow.
I am at a loss for words.
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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:32 PM
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6. I know
there are several message boards that I go to and I'm staying away until election is over. It's ridiculous, I can't take it anymore and I don't have to be around the idiots if I don't want to
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:31 PM
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4. please tell me you dealt with her.
Please tell me you called her what she is to her face.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:33 PM
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10. SHe and I have had many political debates....she knows where I stand
She is a good friend of Mrs. av8rdave, so I let it go out of respect for her.

I did tell her, after everyone left, how absolutely brain - dead stupid I think that woman is.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:32 PM
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7. I would have asked her leave.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:32 PM
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8. Unbelievable.
How can people be so ill-informed? I think they believe what they want to believe, and to hell with the truth.

Something similar happened to me at work this week. I just got up and walked out. I'm not going to listen to their b.s., and I know I'm not going to convince them otherwise. They are just stupid, ignorant, bigoted blockheads.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:38 PM
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15. I understand...
I posted a story about this same person this summer. We were at a local lake to watch the 4th of July fireworks. She had been prattling on about how a coworker of hers "just wasn't very Christian."

A few minutes later, as we watched a hispanic family near us play games with their kids while they awaited the fireworks, she said some horrible things about "those Mexicans."

Gosh. A family. Spending time with their kids. Celebrating our country's independence. Pretty awful, huh?

Yes, this lady is quite the Christian!
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:45 PM
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27. What would have been a fun retort to watch would
be to recognize the man as having been on TV as a representative of one of the families that can trace their family back to the original Spanish land grants and whose Great(x whatever) Grandfather or Uncle died defending the Alamo!
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:33 PM
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9. Invite her over again...then crash one of your RC planes into her face.
:) :) :rofl:
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:34 PM
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11. I wrote an open letter to these people....
You are welcome to go to my blog link and make use of it. Several people who don't have the time and/or energy are copying and pasting, or just pointing to it. LOL. I got tired of replying to the myriad "he's a muslim/terrorist/anti-American" emails and finally wrote a lengthy, rather all-encompassing reply, essentially focusing on the fact that THEY'RE FUCKING RACISTS and BIGOTS and that's all this is about!!!!
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:40 PM
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18. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Well written...I wish I were that articulate.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:46 PM
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20. Thank you, and good luck!
:hi:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:36 PM
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12. Wow. I don't know what I'd have said to her.
Probably something really rude, like, "How stupid can you possibly be?" "He isn't black, he's a muslim"? That's industrial-strength, weapons-grade stupid.

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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:37 PM
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14. Show her this. . . . . .
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SavageDem Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:39 PM
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16. As if there's anything wrong with being a Muslim *or* an Arab...
But I know how you feel. It's just unfathomable how stupid some people are. And there really is no reasoning with them, as they are operating on emotion and not logic. And you're right: she really is - knowingly or not - a racist. She may cloak it in other words, and perhaps not even admit it to herself, but that's really what's driving it.

But it would be fun to ask her what being a Muslim has to do with being President.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:47 PM
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21. There is nothing wrong with either, of course. However,
it would have been a complete waste of time going down that path with this particular moron.
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SavageDem Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:24 PM
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25. I understand.
I only said it in a rhetorical fashion.

BTW, is rhetorical fashion "in" this year? ;)
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:39 PM
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17. "Obama isn't black, he's a Muslim"?
Muhammad Ali must be very confused right now.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:41 PM
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19. I would have been snarky and said "wow, you're practically a
rocket scientist." And when she asked why I would have answered, "well you're pretty much the only person I know who is dumb enough to mix up race with religion. It's like saying 'I'm not white, I'm Christian." Then I would have laughed and changed the subject.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:49 PM
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22. Wish I could have thought of that....
I'm not that quick on my feet.

Truth be told, I don't claim to be the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but I hope I have SOME respect for my fellow human beings.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:06 PM
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23. I bet you didn't even realize that today isn't Tuesday.
Today is a day in the month of August. So there!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:09 PM
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24. no dessert for her!! How awful to hear that in your own house. Not like could toss her out.
How did you handle that? I wouldn't have been able to keep my mouth shut.. as politely as I could.. I couldn't let it rest.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:45 PM
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26. next time your run into that bonehead ...
don't challenge her. ask questions.
how does she know it?
what source of information?
where did that source get the information?
.... keep asking questions, ever so innocently, till her brain hurts.

that entertainment!


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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:16 PM
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28. Good idea, but...
No brain, no pain!
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 06:25 PM
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29. I 'purged' 'friends' like that a long time ago. :^) Unfortunately I still have RELATIVES that fall
under that category, but at least we're split...
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