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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:22 PM
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McCain's Big Decision: Which Group of Voters To Anger at the Debate?
by David Corn:

Crunch time for McCain? Perhaps--for on Wednesday night at his final debate with Barack Obama, John McCain has a do-or-die decision to make. To Atwater or not to Atwater--that is the question. (If you're too young to get the Atwater reference, look it up.) And whatever his answer is, McCain is poised to disappoint--perhaps alienate--one of two crucial blocs of voters.

The Republican party's base wants blood. They cannot believe that a former community activist (read: Socialist!) with barely a moment's experience in Washington who is a secret Muslim and quasi-Black Panther is close to the presidency. For them, the association game--tying Obama to former, bomb-throwing radical Bill Ayers and extreme-rhetoric-hurling Jeremiah Wright--ought to be a fundamental part of the McCain campaign, for these connections reveal the real Obama. Obama, they contend, is fooling the voting public by coming across as a mainstream, composed, confident politician who reasonably talks of consensus-building and change. In their view, he is both the embodiment of the evils of the 1960s and Islamofascism. A sleeper agent. A Manchurian candidate from Mecca. But he is so skilled at keeping his true loyalties covert, he can only be exposed via his ties to Ayers and Wright. This is not guilt by association or the petty politics of personal destruction. It's the key to decoding Obama. Its what must be done so the Republic does not fall into the hands of an internal enemy.

...snip...

But recent polling has indicated that McCain's attacks on Obama have lost him support among voters. More voters see McCain as the more negative of the two candidates and less concerned with issues than Obama. McCain's assaults are simply not working--especially when tethered to McCain's erratic moves regarding the economic crisis. So if he goes all Ayers (or Wright) on Obama, he faces a real risk: pissing off indie and uncommitted voters. But, then, if he holds his fire on this front, he will anger the die-hard conservatives who want to see him pummel Obama and expose the true Obama to the entire world.

At this point in the race, McCain--regrettably for his fans--needs to keep his not-that-excited base excited and to attract in-the-middle voters. In more usual circumstances, a major party candidate by now would be able to focus on the uncommitteds. But McCain is slipping in what should be easy states for him (North Carolina, Virginia). Consequently, he has to keep working the base--while wooing the undecideds. That's like singing two songs at once--say, a heavy metal anthem and a Celine Dion-like love song. It ain't easy. And McCain, to date, has demonstrated he is no maestro.


Decisions, decisions...
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:27 PM
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1. He'll go with the base
and that order will come from the top. He's at the end of his public financing and the GOP is pulling the plug for Senate races they think they can win. McConnel and Saxby are screaming for help.

Depressed GOP turnout will totally kill the Republicans chances of preventing a 60 vote Senate.

McCain is about to experience what Bob Dole experienced in 1996. The last three weeks of his campaign will be about helping his colleagues not his own political ambitions.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:33 PM
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2. Well done, David Corn!
Yes, mccain thinks all he has left is to incite violence and have the election stolen for him.

mccain could give a shit about the undecideds..he chose the wrong path when he plucked palin out of Alaska.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:36 PM
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3. I think he's going to go "balls out"
Whatever he chooses to do I think he knows it's the last chance. This is the big one and he'll go all out.

He may not be able to carry it off. He may lurch, fumble and go down in flames against his best advisers. But I think he'll do it.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:41 PM
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4. you oughta be lynched!!! mkane sneers!!
it s coming tomorrow....the ultimate youtube meltdown...can t wait for the remix.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:54 PM
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5. McCain has to take a risk at the debate to turn things around
Simply put, McCain has to take a risk right now to win (unless he's going to depend on some event beyond Obama/McCain's control to come and save him).

I'm worried about tomorrow with McCain's aggressive strategy, and how there's likely to be more fireworks here then at the previous debates. Still, if Obama merely ties with McCain among independents and undecided voters then he wins the debate.

This line caught my attention from the article though.

"In more usual circumstances, a major party candidate by now would be able to focus on the uncommitteds. But McCain is slipping in what should be easy states for him (North Carolina, Virginia). Consequently, he has to keep working the base--while wooing the undecideds."

McCain is not falling behind in places like North Carolina due to lack of support from republicans, it's because of lack of support from independents. North Carolina just has enough republicans (compared to democrats) to be a very safe state for republicans most of the time nationally.

I've been saying it for almost a year now, if McCain really wanted to win he should have been going back to his old McCain of 2000 rather then caving into the republican base. The McCain of 2000 wouldn't vote for the McCain of 2008.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:15 AM
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6. Are you counting all the nex people that Obama registered
in 08 for the totals of Rethugs and Democrats that are planning to vote this year?
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 09:18 AM
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7. I have confidence in MkkKrash - he'll find a way to piss 'em both off.
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