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Blu Dahlia Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:19 AM
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"We helped him start his career," says Jackson.
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 11:39 AM by Blu Dahlia
Jackson warns that he isn't an Obama confidant or adviser, "just a supporter." But he adds that Obama has been "a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family." Jackson's son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson's daughter went to school with Obama's wife Michelle.

"We helped him start his career," says Jackson. :wtf: "And then we were always there to help him move ahead. He is the continuation of our struggle for justice not only for the black people but also for all those who have been wronged."

Will Obama's election close the chapter of black grievances linked to memories of slavery? The reverend takes a deep breath and waits a long time before responding.

"No, that chapter won't be closed," he says. "However, Obama's victory will be a huge step in the direction we have wanted America to take for decades."

Jackson rejects any suggestion that Obama was influenced by Marxist ideas in his youth. "I see no evidence of that," he says. "Obama's thirst for justice and equality is rooted in his black culture."

But is Obama - who's not a descendant of slaves - truly a typical American black?

Jackson emphatically answers yes: "You don't need to be a descendant of slaves to experience the oppression, the suffocating injustice and the ugly racism that exists in our society," he says. "Obama experienced the same environment as all American blacks did. It was nonsense to suggest that he was somehow not black enough to feel the pain."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm?page=0
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Can someone put a muzzle on that self centered jackass? :eyes:

On edit: I was wrong to call Jesse Jackson sr a jackass, but I just don't understand why he would try to take credit for starting Obama's career and why he would think it's even helpful for him to be speaking right now.
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:20 AM
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1. I thought he started his career in Ayer's living room?
:shrug:
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:39 AM
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11. lol...yep
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:51 AM
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14. The living room was crowded that night...
I'm sure that many more people will suddenly remember they were there.

:eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:24 AM
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2. This is a big old world and so many
voices. Obama will just do his thing.

What was it Jackson said on faux when he thought the mic was off? I don't remember but didn't Jesse Jr have to admonish his father.

Jackson did something right..he had Jesse Jr.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:24 AM
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3. Unfortunately, no
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 11:32 AM by kennetha
He think's he is to Obama as Moses or (maybe John the Baptist) was to Christ, (if you'll pardon the sacrilegious analogy). He thinks that entitles him to prod, praise, and sometimes even punish Obama when he strays from the true path.

Once Obama wins, though, Jackson will slither away into nothingness.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:27 AM
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5. Thank goodness. I cringe everytime he opens his mouth lately. nt
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:40 AM
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12. Actually, now that I think about it
Jackson probably won't go away. He'll think of his new role as the only guy who can keep Obama's feet to the fire on issue affecting black people. He'll anoint himself guardian of the interest of black America. THere will be all sorts of pressures on Obama from all sorts of corners to compromise here and compromise there. The democratic party is more fractured than our days out of power make us seem. But once we have power and want to hold on to it, competing interests will start jockeying for influence over the agenda.

INto that Jockeying, Jesse Jackson will assert himself with his usual gusto.

So I take it back. He won't slither away into nothingness. Doing that isn't in his DNA

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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:25 PM
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17. I cringe when he DOESN'T open his mouth but right wing hacks "quote"
him anyway and so-called Democrats join forces with left wing blogs to create a distracting "scandal" out of nothing.

I'm sure Obama really appreciates how you and others have allowed your hate of Rev. Jackson to help you find common ground with the right wing and give you reason to join forces with them in playing on McCain's turf.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:32 PM
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18. Good grief. For you to
accuse me of 'joining forces with the right wing', etc., is laughable. So I take it that it didn't bother you for Jackson to say he wanted to 'cut Obama's nuts off'? I find it hard to believe that didn't make you cringe. :eyes:
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:27 AM
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4. Edit while you can. I posted a story from this link yesterday and got skewered
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 11:29 AM by SurfingAtWork
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:31 AM
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6. Don't worry about that - it's just a few of the "true believers" that put Jesse's interests up
They hoist Jesse's interests over their own. I honestly think they would rather Obama lose the election than admit Jesse Jackson is a lunatic who just can't accept that his recent history and actions have sealed his legacy. It's sad to watch really. He's grasping for a last bit of relevance in a society that has grown tired of his "Me Me Me" sales pitch.
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:34 AM
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7. Yes - you posted a column written by a discredited hack, containing selected out-of-context "quotes"
that Jackson supposedly said during a major conference but which no other journalist seemed to hear. A hack whose lies about Obama were picked up by the right wing media but were shown to be false

THAT's why you got skewered.



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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:39 AM
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10. And right on cue.....
Even the Obama campaign has distanced themselves as far as they can from Rev. Jesse. They characterize him as "the man last seen threatening to castrate Senator Obama".

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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:18 PM
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15. They didn't distance themselves from Rev. Jackson
They reiterated Obama's support for Israel which they had to do because peoplw like you are so quick to believe and repeat anything negative they hear about Rev. Jackson, regardless how bogus and since some people assume that anything a black supporter of Obama says must be attributable to Obama - even if the comment was made up by a lying right wing hack and is flatly denied by that supporter - he had no choice.

Thanks for your help in spreading a right wing smear.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:38 AM
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8. No, Jesse, you didn't.
Stop fucking trying to claim credit for Obama's success.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:38 AM
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9. You mean the author?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Amir_Taheri

Evidently he's trying for the Stephen Glass Award for Imaginary Journalism.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:48 AM
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13. Jesse Jackson fucked up when he had child out of marriage.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:20 PM
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16. Of course you say it won't be closed...
...if it were, you'd be out of a job. Meanwhile, a white guy from Ireland continues to do more for blacks world-wide than you ever will.
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