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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:42 PM
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help me debunk this...talk me down....got some email from brother in laws sister in law....
saying Ayers is an arab and he has copies of Obama's real birth certificate.

is this the October surprise people?
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:43 PM
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1. No, don't worry, I got it. You don't need a sarcasm tag.
:P
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:43 PM
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2. Gosh, I hope so.
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:43 PM
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3. You're kidding, right?
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:46 PM by Whalestoe


"I ez a muslem."
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:44 PM
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5. is this your way of talking me down? not helping. nt.
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Whalestoe Donating Member (928 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:45 PM
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9. Obama is a mooselump. Fell butter?
:crazy:
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:08 PM
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30. You don't need talking down.
Just ignore these idiots as they have already made up their minds and are not worth the adrenaline. Just tell them not to worry as we won't be taking away their bibles when Obama is in office and go to pollster.com. There you will be able to relax within seconds.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:44 PM
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7. ARAB!!!!!!!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:45 PM
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10. No, he doesn't look Arabian, just a little pathetic in that Cubs shirt, poor dear.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:45 PM
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12. Did you really have to post a picture of him in a Cuba jersey?
Now the freeper trolls will see this and say, "See not only is he a terrorist but he's a commie too. Look at the proof!"

:sarcasm:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:44 PM
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4. Ah, shit...the dog's head just exploded. n/t
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:59 PM
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29. and the flying brains killed my canary
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:44 PM
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6. Damn. Truth will out. Damn. nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:44 PM
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8. ROFL!!! The tall tales keep getting taller and taller.
I almost feel sorry for the pukes - frantically trying to pull something out of their big red collective ass. :rofl:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:45 PM
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11. Oh good lord
Here is Bill Ayers



He's (1) not an Arab (and even if he was, so what?) ... Obama's "real birth certificate" is the one everyone else has seen.

You do seem to love dredging up these "october surprise parties".
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:45 PM
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13. Shocking photos released!!!! Obama pals around with terrorists!...
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM by Virginia Dare
OMG!1! IT"S HUGH11!!!!!!

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twistedliberal Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:46 PM
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14. Ohh, man. You got it too?
I'm series...this could be HUGH!!!111!!!1!!

Also, my friend in ND says he won't vote for Obama because his middle name is Hussein and he's a muzzzzlim. I THOUGHT ND WAS GOING BLUE!!!! WHAT'S GOING ON PEOPLE!!!! I THINK HE'S PEAKED TOO EARLY!!!!111!!
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:46 PM
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15. Ayres is Obama's real father!
Ayres is really Kenyan and forced Obama's mother to marry an obscure sheep herder named Barack Hussein Obama.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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17. serious? where did you hear that? oh man...this is getting bad. nt.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:49 PM
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25. That's why Ayres has Obama's REAL birth certificate.
To hide the fact that he fathered Obama. He had to keep it secret because everyone knows Ayres is Satan and he didn't want anyone looking for the 666 mark on Obama's head.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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20. These inscrutable Arabs!
;)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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16. Obama with a turbine on his head. Oh Noes!!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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18. lmao. Ayers has Obamas birth certificate?
:rofl: This is the most illogical thing I've heard all day. :rofl:
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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19. Very true.
What's not well known is that Bin Laden is Ayer's puppet (and lover).

Barack is their secret love child, trained from day one for this campaign.




I don't really need a sarcasm tag, do I?
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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21. This was posted yesterday on DU. Pretty sane, I'd say.
My Friend Bill Ayers http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122402888900234543.html...

"Waving the bloody shirt" was the phrase once used to describe the standard demagogic tactic of the late 19th century, when memories of the Civil War were still vivid and loyalists of both parties could be moved to "vote as they shot." As the years passed and the memories faded, the shirt got gorier, the waving more frantic.


Corbis
Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.
In 1896 the Democrats chose William Jennings Bryan as their leader, a man who was born in 1860 and had thus missed the Civil War, but who seemed to threaten the consensus politics of the time. In response, Republican campaign masterminds organized a speaking tour of the Midwest by a handful of surviving Union generals. The veterans advanced through the battleground states in a special train adorned with patriotic bunting, pictures of their candidate, William McKinley, and a sign declaring, "We are Opposed to Anarchy and Repudiation."

The culture wars are the familiar demagogic tactic of our own time, building monstrous offenses out of the tiniest slights. The fading rancor that each grievance is meant to revive, of course, dates to the 1960s and the antiwar protests, urban riots and annoying youth culture that originally triggered our great turn to the right.

This year the Democrats chose Barack Obama as their leader, a man who was born in 1961 and who largely missed our cultural civil war. In response, Republican campaign masterminds have sought to plunge him back into it in the most desperate and grotesque manner yet.

For days on end, the Republican presidential campaign has put nearly all of its remaining political capital on emphasizing Mr. Obama's time on various foundation boards with Bill Ayers, a former member of the Weathermen, which planted bombs and issued preposterous statements in the Vietnam era. Some on the right seem to believe Mr. Ayers is Mr. Obama's puppet-master, while others are content merely to insist that the association proves Mr. Obama to be soft on terrorism. Maybe he's soft on anarchy and repudiation, too.

I can personally attest to the idiocy of it all because I am a friend of Mr. Ayers. In fact, I met him in the same way Mr. Obama says he did: 10 years ago, Mr. Ayers was a guy in my neighborhood in Chicago who knew something about fundraising. I knew nothing about it, I needed to learn, and a friend referred me to Bill.

Bill's got lots of friends, and that's because he is today a dedicated servant of those less fortunate than himself; because he is unfailingly generous to people who ask for his help; and because he is kind and affable and even humble. Moral qualities which, by the way, were celebrated boisterously on day one of the GOP convention in September.




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ITsec Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:47 PM
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22. My sister's mother in law's cousin's father in law says...
no.

Of course, he prays to Hindu, so take it for what it's worth. YMMV.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:48 PM
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23. No.
The October surprise is pictures of Obama planting bombs back when he was in the Weather Underground. (and interviews with other then 3rd graders who knew him at the time and knew what he was up to when he skipped out on school).
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:48 PM
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24. The birth certificate crap has been debunked. It is not even worth re-hashing. Ayers an
Arab? Very much doubt it, but, IF true, so what? Or are you planning to join the ranks of those who equate every Arab and every Muslim with those who flew into the WTC on 911?


This is no different from the Muslim emails that have been circulating since the primary. You don't need to be talked down. You just need to take a breath and think for a minute.
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:50 PM
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26. It's a trap!
Who's got the Admiral Ackbar photo?
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:54 PM
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27. That's nothing...
I have photos of Obama squeezing the Charmin. This could be the end.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:35 PM
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35. I heard Obama voted for Sanjaya. Stick a fork in him.
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:55 PM
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28. Unsavory this ayers isn't he...
The list of McCain unsavory types... I'm not an expert... but lets see:
-GEORGE BUSH... no more to say on that really.
- RICHARD QUINN - White supremacist... hired by McCain, called Mandela a terrorist.
- RICK DAVIS - dodgy lobbyist, paid thief and of course mccain advisor.
- LIDDY- He's likeable isn't he... convicted watergate felon-friend of mcain... proposed to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 RNC, planned a murder of unfriendly newspaper columnist, suggested Waco protestors should have all been shot in the head… also hosted a fundraiser for McCain.
- COLSON – Another Watergate thug, Colson sought to hire Teamsters to beat up anti-war demonstrators, and plotted to raid or firebomb the Brookings Institution.
- JOHN HAGEE - McCains own turbulent priest, said Katrina was punishment for homosexuals... The RC church is the 'great whore'.
- FALWELL - more turbulence, even McCain called this huge bigot 'intolerant' before realizing he might need his support... blamed 9/11 on gays, pagans and liberals, said tinky winky was a gay role model (that's really quite funny, surely a joke n'est pas?)
- JIM HENSLEY... Cindys pa, where McCain got his many houses, convicted felon and friend of many unsavory gangsters.
- PALIN - The American Anti-American, free Alaska if you please.
- JESSE HELM - racist, suggested that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a communist dupe...
- KEATING - of course... more convicted felons and McCain representing them as well.
- US COUNCIL FOR WORLD FREEDOM - McCain was advisor, it funded rebels in Nic, linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America.
- DAVID IFSHIN - how did that get here, Ifshin left-wing student who denounced America on Radio Hanoi!
- ROBERT ASHER - , a Republican National Committeeman from Pennsylvania -- and a felon convicted on public-corruption charges.
- CLAYTON WILLIAMS – Oil good ole boy who raised $300K for McCain, once likened bad weather to rape: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it".
- JAMES B FOLWER – State trooper admitted he wrongfully shot dead a protestor in 1960s Alabama, in 1990s when Fowler in Thailand in jail for narcotics. McCain asked state department to help him out. Reason?


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Heathen57 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:29 PM
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32. What a wonderful list
Can I use it on some bible-thumping rethugs? One is a college age McSame supporter that says he is supporting the war effort by being in college.:wtf:
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:52 PM
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37. Use it where you want... but I realised it needs editing. I'm going to repost it.
Cheers
BK
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:40 PM
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36. Great list. Thanks! n/t
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:17 PM
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31. IndianaJones is a terrorist with ties to some weather guy on channel 11.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:29 PM
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33. ***Forward the email to watchdog@barackobama.com.*** They will***
respond with an email to debunk it.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 01:31 PM
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34. The e-mail I got says that Ayers even wrote Obama's book in Arabic
Edited on Wed Oct-15-08 01:32 PM by Viking12
Before it was translated by communist terrorists.
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:23 PM
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38. help me debunk this...
snopes.com
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