Why are all the msm pundits saying that McCain won the debate

and/or had his best showing? To me, he was absolutely bizzare. Seriously strange. I have a much worse opinion, and worry about his sanity than before

The American people aren't buying their crap though. Thankfully.

But for Keith and Rachel and I'm not sure who else.

It's all a game to them.

just the thought that daddy could get drunk one night and ass rape them is pretty much their fantasy. Anyone with half a brain knows Obama won.

They said he did better but he did not win.

msnbc and cnn seemed to be saying obama won.

Seriously, the only one I've seen say that McLame won is Pat Buchanan. But that is expected. He is as crazy and as old as Gramps.

the channels right after the debate, and was astounded to hear a consesus that McCain either won, or at least did his best job yet. I thought he was just strange and stuttering.

:shrug:

"best" is a relative term - he sucked pretty bad in the last two debates and did a little better tonight. Still, Obama/Biden wins the series 4-0.

that doesn't make sense, does it? No, it doesn't.

more than he's had during any other debate.... But when he went off the rails, he TOTALLY went off them

He needed to be shut down and re-booted, but no one there knows how a TRS-80 works.

Thanks. Needed that laugh.

:dem:

-Laelth

And the other softer question were all in Obama's favor as well. The biggest was "Which candidate spent more time attacking the other candidate?" on CNN......80% said McCain and only 7% said Obama.

Except for Pat Buchanan. He's just batshit insane.

The blogosphere has better reflected how these debates have been viewed by the majority of viewers. Give them a day so they can get it figured out and then they will parrot what is said out here.

M$M punditry, as we know it now, is on its last legs.

(shhhhh - don't wake me up from this dream, ok?)

Buchanan
Andrea Mitchell
Bill Bennett
Castellanos

Say McCain did a good job.

Oh yeah - John King is skeptical of snap polls.

but not even close to a win.

that smart ass snarks and insults without the other guy getting down in the mud with you proves you are a winner. Apparently telling lies through your teeth is something admirable with these people and acting like an adult is a crime.

This garbage has worked so long with the American people that they just believe if you engage in it you are winning. None of them are smart enough to call the RNC out on this childish behavior and the chronic lies.

Once Obama is president that culture will change and the pundits will be forced grow up. Americans are just sick of this crap, especially the younger ones. The Republicans reign of terror is coming to an end.

what I'm hearing. Most are saying he started strong but came across as too angry allowing Obama to finish stronger.

I was switchiong everywhere, and I swear, every channel was lauding McCain. They were using lots of boxing type terms, offensed defense and stuff, but my experience of the debate was that Obama spoke directly to me/America, and I loved it. That's why I was annoyed to hear other stuff.

They really do get into the whole "who attacked best" thing. The polls show what the rest of us see, that is, Barack is a cool customer, and McCain looks unhinged.

IMO, this was easily McCain's best debate. At least he tried to win, unlike the others. His opening half hour was light years more forceful than previous debates and the seated format seemed to suit him.

I expected this debate to be judged close to 50/50 since Obama was on the defensive the majority of the debate. I'm thrilled Obama is estimated to be the winner so handily but frankly I'm a bit baffled. I can't remember being so far off on debate analysis. Normally, no matter what the pundits say, my estimate is very close to public opinion. Perhaps I was thrown off by starting to work on Excel workbooks in the middle of the debate. I listened but generally did not watch and apparently I missed facial expressions that worked against McCain.

In grading this debate more favorably to McCain, some of us may have made the mistake of judging McCain against previous versions of McCain, instead of McCain versus Obama. But it was much more competitive, energetic and lively than the two previous presidential debates this cycle.