So....when is the abortion story going to drop?

I'm wondering if this might not be the "October surprise."

Voters in the Midwest are populists- socially conservative, fiscally liberal. The only reason that a lot are leaning toward Bush is the social issues- like abortion.

If word gets out that Bush arranged one, he's toast.

Is that book coming out in Oct?

Published by Bartcop.com, 2000:


Note : Apparently, the source of this story was due to go public this week via publisher Larry Flynt, but found out that Flynt was planning to make a tabloid sale, and changed her mind. Like George W. Bush's intervention in commuting the sentence of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas, this is a story that is circulating in the press packs, but that few people want to touch at the eleventh hour of the 2000 U.S. presidential election.

In the winter of 1971 George W. Bush was dating a woman named Robin Lowman (now Robin Garner). Miss Lowman became pregnant by Smirk and he arranged for her to have an abortion - which in the great state of Texas in 1971 was very illegal! Not to mention that George W. is running as a pro-life candidate for the presidency.

The unnamed source of this story, was a friend of Robin Lowman's and the girlfriend of the man who arranged the abortion. His name is Robert Carl Chandler. Chandler is a Bush friend and supporter from way back and he made the arrangements for Miss Lowman's abortion at the Twelve Oaks Hospital in Houston, TX (now the Bayou City Medical Center). The source overheard the call by Mr. Chandler to arrange the abortion and the source visited Robin Lowman at the Twelve Oaks Hospital after the procedure.

The source meanwhile, is afraid of coming forward, saying that she was threatened by Chandler and another Bush friend and supporter named Jim Bath. Bath has longstanding intelligence connections, and played a role in the BCCI scandal. Robin Lowman (now Garner) is married to Jerry Lee Garner, who is an FBI agent.

So, that's the story : an illegal back room abortion arranged by the Republican party Presidential candidate who is running on a pro-life ticket.

There's a lot of winking and nudging to that effect, but I don't know of anyone outside the blogosphere who's actually said so. Maybe someone has a link?

many, many years ago.

The fundies will forgive him. They knew he "used" to be a sinner before he found a god who would talk to him.

Being born again and accepting all the fundy horseshit covers all sins.

We have got to play dirty.Now throw the mudd. He will be toat.This isn't the Dukakis campaign!

Didn't make a damn bit of difference.

Where in the Midwest are voters socially conservative? Certainly not in the big cities like Chicago where I live.

not sure how midwesterny Chicago is.

But rural voters in Ohio, West Virginia (kind of Southern), Missouri, and Indiana sure fit that profile, as well as Wisconsin. Indiana will be solid for Bush, and Illinois will be solidly behind Kerry.

West Virginia and Missouri are more southern than Chicago. Wisconsin voted for Gore in 2000.

and Missouri isn't Southern enough, because I can't get sweet tea there. :)

...who HATE sweet tea.

Seriously!

I have had a half gallon of it today already!

'Tis the secret to Southern Democrats, and why they're so laid back.

Zell Miller is the perfect example of what happens to you when you go without sweet tea. You become ornery, and join the right-wing attack machine!!

Like good ol' Zell.

And, fortunately, Keyes is a joke in Illinois -- even among the repukes. Talk about a decision that comes and bites you in the ass.

And then you mellow out. Then you calm down and can answer questions with ease.

And then you really have to pee, because of all the tea and caffeine.

Those are two states in the midwest that are in play and very socially conservative. I would include western Iowa. This story would clinch Iowa for Kerry, if it is not already solid Kerry.

We knew, but not many others did (that I'm aware of). I don't recall seeing this story anywhere other than my favorite web sites, none of which I'd classify as mainstream. CNN was so skeered of the story that they censored their own transcript after Larry Flynt mentioned it on air.

I was actually surprised that so many people knew about it. Friends and people at work, for example, since DU didn't exist at the time.

I can't recall ever seeing it in print, or being discussed on television except for that time on CNN. The only people I know of that knew about it were Internet political junkies. I remember reading about it on Bartcop, Bushwatch and The Daily Brew.

Can we get these records? Can we publish?

When George was 'born again' he got a clean slate with respect to all his past misdeeds, at least with the true believers. And they're unlikely to be pried away from him in any case.

He has even been evasive about the drug use without ever admitting it or denying it outright.

If you're going to take George down, it has to be on outright lies and the more contemporary the events or lies the better. That's why exposing the facts of his 'lost years' in the guard are important because he has made explicit claims about that and refused to admit the truth.

that could also cause a lot of the religious right stay home. The religious right staying home gives us several Southern states as well.

This is a big potential issue for us- why not flaunt it? It can do no harm to our cause, that's for sure.

Even if they KNOW he arranged the abortion, they'll say it doesn't count because since then he has been SAVED and has FOUND JAYZUS.

If he denies it as a cover up it will look bad. Die-hards may move him from God to Demi-God status...

Bush could perform an abortion live on television and the Bush lovers would say it was faked.

This story will not fly with them. They'll roll their eyes and say more prayers for God to protect him from evil, lying liberals.

It wouldn't be a "back street" abortion then, would it?

I agree that it wouldn't make any difference with Bush supporters. They love a reformed sinner. Remember when Jimmy Swaggart bawled on TV because he "sinned" with a hooker? The people loved him anyway.

about having sinned.

Am I being too hard on him?

it would not have been called an abortion, but "reported" as a different kind of procedure.

peacemaker missiles?
patriot acts?

whalerider55

She was likely admitted with a diagnosis of having had an miscarriage, which at the time required a D&C. A D&C causes an abortion in a pregnant woman.

money and the right contacts.

Look at how people swayed and swung when the Swift Boat Liars for Bush came forward with their bullshit. It was complete crap, and yet some people are so simple-minded that they believed it anyway and changed their minds. Pulling this out on shrub could depress turnout among the religiously insane, and get some swing voters thinking about hypocrisy.

its the swing voters we want to sway, we will never convince his sheep but to instill doubt among the swings is a far better plan

In the eyes of the all bush lovers, he can do no wrong. If I live to be 150, I'll never understand such blind and unquestioning and constipated devotion!

Peace

and he is practically running on an anti-abortion platform.

sorry. You probably slipped post 10 in ahead of me or at the same time.

People are saying he arranged an abortion. He needs to answer for that. Let's just see what he says about it. We have a right to know.

Why haven't Bush addressed those allegations yet?
Those are serious allegations.

It's gotten so little traction that I even went and put Larry Flynt up as my avatar.

on this site. There's even a Bush abortion Yahoo group!

http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159

One, I remember the story in early '01 after he was in office and I remember that it said this woman absolutely will not finger him, etc. (paid or threatened off). Secondly, did you note in the original post article that the press didn't want to touch it late in the '00 election?? Well, I was just thinking about all the info they say is coming out in Kelley's book (like homosexual behavior) and I thought to myself that no one in the media will dare put it on tv or print it. They would not only fear the Bush family, they would fear that the wingnuts would go after them and their advertisers, etc. I know Larry King always has this woman on. I have a feeling he just won't dare until after the election. I'm sure CNN will never let him. So, again, I doubt if a story like this will ever see light.

the war/massacre began... they targeted Saddam several times, with bunker busters... bigguns... wherever and whenever, civilians, women, and children be damned.

Now he sits in a prison, unheard from, and our troops die in Iraq every day.... go figure.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/Primetime/iraq_whereishussein030410.html
Strike Two

Then, late Monday (Tuesday in Iraq), there was another U.S. attack based on intelligence Saddam and his ministers were about to gather in a house near a restaurant, in the Mansour district of Baghdad.

"American covert agents or special forces saw him get out of the car and go into the restaurant or the house next to it," said Clarke.

A B-1 aircraft was diverted to the area and dropped four huge bombs. Little was left after the bombing and it seemed impossible anyone could have survived.

The restaurant, the al-Saah, appeared heavily damaged but not completely destroyed. And U.S. authorities received reports he escaped once again.

I seem to remember that * was in his twenties and the woman/girl was 15.

If true, wouldn't it be statutory rape?

I thought statutory rape was a fairly new thing. At least it is in my state...

Maybe we should email him. If anyone would have the resources to investigate it and get it out into the media, it's Mike.

And this is the one issue that can make Kerry's trip to the White House definite.

didnt make any difference then. why would it make any difference now?

furthermore, what percentage of the people on this board can say they have never been party to an abortion?

what a stupid non-issue. can we find something important to talk about, please?

not "fake turkeys."

not fake "boos for clinton."

not a possible bush abortion, when i bet the majority of all of us have been party to such a deed.

hell, i know a bush-hater who's had three abortions.

who the hell are we to judge?

kerry's on the edge of extinction, and we're arguing about a possible abortion 35 years ago.

i dont get it.

but unless we start waking up, im gonna start packing and get ready to move overseas when * wins 4 more years. i can see very little reason for hope anymore.

we're on the edge of the fourth reich, and all we can do is argue about some slime from a loser like larry flynt.

i weep for the good people in this country.

eom.

but it highlights the hypocrisy of Bush, since he does. It will also put a wedge between him and his party.

i think it will be like Monica & Clinton... the base will forgive, but the swing conservative won't.