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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:22 AM
Original message
The Official Joe the Plumber Fact-Checker List.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 12:21 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
Please add to list as more charges are
nailed down as possibilities:

Not registered to vote.
No plumbing license.
Close relation to major Keating 5 player.
Secret McCain backer.
Doesn't make anywhere near $250,000.
Plays football with son.
A plant from McCain camp.
Not really named Joe, but Sam.
Already owns the business.
Actually Son of Sam escaped from prison & in disguise.
Exposes his asscrack on occasion.
Actually Josephine.
Racist and/or fan of Sammy Davis Jr and tapdancing.
All-around Republican asshole and bullshitter.
Involved in Watergate Break-Ins.
Lousy plumber.
A doofus who wandered across the street.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:24 AM
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1. Doesn't pay his taxes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7477732&mesg_id=7477732
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. "Maybe it's a different guy. Who knows."
I cant believe these people. What do they want?
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
57. he is registered to vote, registered republican
and voted in primary.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:25 AM
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2. distant cousin of the White House Plumbers of Washington, D.C.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:31 AM
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7. Check! ... All of them?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:27 AM
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3. Sports a "Old Glory" speedo like fellow plumber G. Gordon Liddy.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #3
10. Check! Although technically I don't approve
of flag underpants.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:28 AM
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4. actually, they found his reg and he's registered REPUBLICAN. n/t
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:31 AM
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6. Wait a minute. He's registetred . . . to vote?
How can that be?
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:32 AM
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9. His name was misspelled in the voter roles.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. Who misspelled it? It sounds fishey to me.
Let's nail this down, people.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:41 AM
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16. He was registered in 1992
The misspelling looks like a clerical error.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:47 AM
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19. Well, I don't like the looks of it one bit.
Not one bit. Of all the hundreds of millions
of people registered to vote in Ohio since 1992
he is the only one that got their nasme misspelled?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:01 PM
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39. He is?
I'm sure the registration database of any state is filled with errors like this.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Misspelinghs of Wurzelburger?
I doubt that a whole lot some bit.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:58 PM
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55. Worzelburger for Wurzelburger is suspicious??
Say them out loud...
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:26 PM
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56. I thought it was Wortzelbacken?
No? Let's see if we can nail this baby down once in for all.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #39
58. My son's name is misspelled on his voter's card.
He has not changed it and they allow him to vote. Time will tell if his luck will continue because he is a member of a minority. :shrug:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:31 AM
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8. He IS registered to vote!
His name is misspelled in the voter database, but here it is straight out of the Secretary of State's database for Lucas County:

OH0013041328,48,092248416,WORZELBACHER,SAMUEL,JOSEPH,,1973,08/08/2006,R,355 SHREWSBURY ST , ,HOLLAND,OH,43528,,,, , ,,,,,,,,,,,09,06,,,,SYLVANIA,SPRINGFIELD 5,48-P-ATE,02,46,02,SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP,,,,,,,,X,,,,X,X,,,,,X,,,X,,R
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:38 AM
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12. I don't know the Secretary of State. Do you?
I'm sorry but I'm not going to take the word of
some database of some guy I don't even know. You'll
have to do a lot better than that, my friends.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:40 AM
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14. The millions of people who live in Ohio know this person.

The world doesn't revolve around you.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:44 AM
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17. Have you been watching the database 24/7?
Let's not make this investigation personal, my friends.
Just the facts. Whether the world revolves around me
or not, we can investigate that later.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:53 AM
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25. Depends on your mass.
I would guess that 4 to 8 times solar mass, or that of a neutron star would be enough to have every object in the immediate vicinity of this solar system including the sun to revolve around the gravity field you'd generate.



Just a rough estimate.









Have you been bulking up lately?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Do you personally know this alleged neutron star?
Not that it's any of your business
what I've been doing with my mass,
but, yes, I have been bulking it.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. I've seen some of his work, yes.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:03 PM
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30. Is that kid licensed?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:20 PM
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33. He ain't doin' any plumbin' there, mister.
And it's kinda hard to even find anyone that will issue a license to pilot an unregistered fusion-powered spacecraft, yanno?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:23 PM
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34. I'll take that rather verbiage answer as a: No.
Where does he live? We need to send somebody over there.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:29 PM
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35. Retroville.
Duh.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. Am I supposed to know where your so-called friend resides?
Let me guess: No. Although if that is your drawing of him,
youre a very good drawer.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:43 PM
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38. A person of your mass should be able to have facts like that
Gravitate towards them.







And please stop talking about my drawers.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:14 PM
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43. Please don't put my mass and your drawers in sentences next to each other.
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FloridaGrl Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #12
18. where did you get your fact
that he is not registered?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. I read it somewhere.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:39 AM
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13. Purge him now. Or does that not happen when they misspell the names of white people?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:49 AM
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21. Purge him? That's a rather mild punishment for all the damage he's done.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:07 PM
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59. Considering the level of enforcement lately? Really?
I'd love to see any charge stick these days.
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Every Man A King Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:53 AM
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24. Voter Fraud nt
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:40 AM
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15. Apparently he invented the Wurlitzelbacher piano.
I have not yet nailed down if that's good or bad.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:50 AM
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22. Generational member of the Freemasons
Involved in nefarious plots to rule the world

When he's not busy being a dumbass republican, that is.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:52 AM
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23. I knew he was a freemason just the secret way he had his hands on his hips
talking to Obama.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:53 AM
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26. Yes.
That is the one sure sign.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:00 PM
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28. I just read somewhere that Joe may be actually related to Keating himself.
I'm not sure if he's Keating's son,
but the ages are perfectly right.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #28
47. Outrageous!
Do you remember where you read it?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:07 PM
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31. Cousin Eddie Johnson might have some work for him
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:19 PM
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32. Is his head-plate licensed?
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 12:43 PM
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37. Is actually Josephine
Yes. http://www.tvacres.com/admascots_josephine.htm
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:38 PM
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44. At last hard-core proof!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:06 PM
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40. I think we should leave this guy alone
He's a private citizen that had no idea one conversation would turn into this madness and it's obvious using him in the debates did McCain no favors.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:11 PM
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41. I could not agree more that we should leave him completely alone
as soon as we're done picking his bones.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:41 PM
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45. ROFL!
:rofl:

I agree to disagree, but there's no denying how funny your response was. :D
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:43 PM
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46. I think we agree a lot more than you think.
:hi:
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:18 PM
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50. He is a private citizen that intentionally put himself into the middle of this.
He deserves every piece of scrutinizing he's getting.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:54 PM
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60. talking to Obama for a few minutes means he deserves all of this?
I honestly don't understand. Did the McCain campaign ask or at least notify him that they were going to bring him up 10 times at the debate last night?
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:29 PM
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63. According to Countdown, JTP had appeared on right-wing radio...
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 07:37 PM by TWriterD
prior to the debate. He brought this shit on himself. Quick, call a plumber!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:07 PM
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48. Joe credited with 400-point bounce in Dow.
Just read it.
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:14 PM
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49. He does not already own the business
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 03:20 PM by gal
From what I've read he isn't even in talks to buy the business. It was mentioned when he was hired 6 years ago..another through vetting process.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081016/NEWS09/810160418
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:38 PM
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51. There are plenty people giving him the business.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:32 PM
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64. That's what's so hilarious.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 07:33 PM by TWriterD
He's some dude making $40K/year with delusions of plumbing grandeur.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:47 PM
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52. Joe the plumber's helper who owns a plumbing business? That has to be a first?
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 03:47 PM by Life Long Dem
Unless he had the license and somehow lost it through breaking the plumbing code regulations for the state of Ohio. Code book is probably online, but that won't tell if he lost his license. Probably never had one. The business into plumbing doesn't make sense without a license.

People usually open a business after they have been practicing in the trade for awhile. To open a plumbing business as a plumber's helper is not smart and very doubtful.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:55 PM
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54. I just heard that you don't need a license to plumb in huts in certain villages in Ohio.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:49 PM
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53. Wurzelbacher, Worzelbacher, it's all good.
I mean, when this guy goes to vote, they don't notice his name on the roll doesn't match the name on his license?

I don't know, different name, a foregin sounding one at that, sounds like someone should be running in to challenge his right to vote.

Why isn't the FBI looking into this? Oh right, they're too busy going after ACORN.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 05:55 PM
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61. Charles Keating rumor probably false.
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 05:55 PM by Eric J in MN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7480122
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 07:27 PM
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62. What about Johnny Gan?
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 07:51 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
I just read that both Robert and Joe Wourtzerbelger are
related to Johnny Gan, the millionaire entertainer.
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