Did Joe the Plumber ask for it? Or is he getting screwed?

You have to really, REALLY feel sorry for Joe Wurzelbacher. He's being kicked around like a soccer ball all over the media, and having reporters after you all day can't be fun.

But, I think he was doing some grandstanding when he confronted Obama about the tax plan. He stands to gain from that plan and, as far as I know, was just speaking hypothetically about buying the plumbing company he works for. It looked a little bit like he was parroting right wing talk radio, even though right wing talk radio generally works against his own interests.

Just a question: does he deserve all this scrutiny? Did he ask for it, or should he be left alone?

Regardless, I'll bet he'd rather be unclogging toilets than dealing with the press.

If he was really upset about all the scrutiny he'd be avoiding the media.

and proceeded to lie.
the other campaign then decides itll be their theme of the working man based off of what he said.

let me say again, he went infront of the national media and LIED.


fuck him. he deserves what he gets.

theres nothing wrong with saying what you want and being free to do it, but even I know if my views seem extreme to lots of others and i care not to be scrutinized YOU DONT GO INFRONT OF A LARGE GROUP OF MEDIA PEOPLE AND START SAYIN IT!

I don't think he is just some regular dumbass who got caught up in some stuff. He most likely was a plant, and their little plan went horribly awry.

He deserves everything he's getting, whether he's a plant or a typical dumbass rw radio listener.

McCain thrust him, unwillingly, into the spotlight. It's John's fault and John's alone.

Wants to do away with Social Security? He's loving all the attention. Guaranteed.

celebrity, we now know that he's a tax dodger, who has now admitted that his taxes would be lower under a Prez Obama. He's skipped out on fines for driving violations, so he's clearly not an example of a law abiding citizen, etc. etc. etc.

I think Joe probably wishes he could take it all back by now.

He's a tool.
Turns out he's a rather crappy tool, at that.

Another credit to McCain's Campaign's vetting skills.
Hoooey! McCain sure can pick em!

How dumb does he think we are!?

critical thinking. "Sam the Plumber Wannabe" is a tragic figure, in that, he is best served by an Obama Presidency. Unfortunately his rigid right leaning libertarian ideology will not fully process that fact.

TRAGIC, but yes, he is oh, so, worthy. Just maybe he will listen to reason. Just maybe. :shrug:

He brought this shit on himself, and McCain helped exacerbate it by making him the focal point of his debate responses.

and you should suffer their fate.

No sympathy for him whatsoever. He brought this on himself.

:evilgrin:

He wanted to play the big man and it came back to bite him in the ass.

doesn't have to agree to interviews; he doesn't have to go on TV shows. When a person portrays himself as one thing and goes public with it, he has no one to blame but himself if his claims receive any scrutiny.

He can end it all right now by refusing to talk to anyone anymore. The media will go away when he stops making himself available.

Except that he dosnt have a plumber's license.

You know, You're a liar, "Joe", Just a Liar.

If all he did was talk to Obama, even though he misrepresented himself to make a false political point, then I wouldn't be in favor of attacking him. But once he decided to expose himself further by giving a press conference, granting interviews, and presumably approved the McCain campaign's usage of him and his story, then he opened himself up to being scrutinized. At that point, it is the media's duty to verify his story. If they manage to uncover a whole bunch of facts that are completely relevant, like his lack of a plumbing license and his failure to pay his taxes, that is just too bad.

This is the flag pin question lady from the PA primary. If she had held press conferences and gone on FOX News to talk about this, she would be scrutinized as well. Plus Joe should have paid his back taxes.

But he didn't. He loved that part. He kept letting himself be booked on shows & giving all his opinions on every subject under the sun.

He could have said No, but he didn't. He's a 34 year old man, not a babe in the woods! Typical Republican though, wanting the upside then complaining about the downside.

Neither.

The Obama plan compared to the McCain plan deserved the scrutiny. JTP was a sideshow. The scrutiny came with McCain's sideshow detour and JTP's enjoyment in sitting for interviews. They ask him questions and he answers.

He made up a story about what he does and buying the business and his salary.

oh please.


Joe the plumber, joe the LIAR, can go fuck himself.

:nopity:

He's a big-mouthed know nothing.

That Joe guy thought he was all badass being snarky to OBama.. like he was SOOO clever. The McPalin people made the first blunder by using that guy, without asking, in the debate 22 times. Then Joe deserves the blame for doing (how many?) interviews (for which I'm sure he was NICELY PAID.) He craved the limelight, and now he cries because they found out his not-so-savory past?

So McPalin deserves blame for turning him into a tool, and Joe deserves blame for trying to ride the gravy train then blaming the media. Did he think they were wining and dining him, flying him to NY, and giving him $$$, to talk about plumbing?? You can't have it both ways.

I STILL believe there is MORE to the story than anyone is letting on. It's just far too coincidental that the guy lived in Arizona and Alaska at some point... and that there is a person with his same name (not him obviously) who lives on Keating Drive in Arizona, in an expensive house. I still believe there is more to this...

just because they take a public stand on issues.

Whatever is immediately relevant to that stand is fair game, but that's it. Basically, this guy was "incorrect" in his statement about his taxes, and needed to be corrected.

I'd hate to have my opinion voiced on national media and then have freepers stalking my home and harrassing my employer, as has happened in the past to other Democrats.

Joe, and is going to suck what he can out of him until he is no longer useful to him. Then he'll find someone else to leech on to.

He's a blowhard, who thought he had a chance to ask a "gotcha" question when Obama unexpectedly showed up in his neighborhood. There are plenty of people out there just like him. Just a guess, but I surmise that if McCan't showed up somewhere, someone would pepper him with a similar type of question.

what is deserve....

but he is experiencing it cause of his choices.

And not complaining about the results. They are willing to let people live in poverty and misery and suffering based on their take on how we end up that way, if we do.

So they can take consequences like this and should do so without whining.

The saying goes "Never pick a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel" but it could just as well apply to putting yourself out there in high visibility and thinking you're so smart you can pull a fast one on Barack Obama. This guy needs a serious head examination for trying to pull such a stunt.

Truly amazing how these RWingers think they can get away with this stuff.

Who doesnt know WTF he is talking about ....

Watch out what you ask for, you just might get it .....

He went out there and asked a fake question that had no relationship to his real life and then even after Obama gave him a great detailed answer he kept pestering him with empty right-wing talking points. McCain mentioned his name over 20 times in a national presidential debate and is now repeating it dozens of times a day in his stump speech - even though this guy would actually pay less taxes under Obama. Then it turns out he is even more of a Limbaugh/Hannity style radical when he openly talked to the press about his ridiculous hypocritical and contradictory far right-wing views. He ran around talking to every camera he could as well as flying out to NY to go on Fox News. And he doesn't expect people to investigate his background? Please, if he didn't want the press scrutiny he should call up McCain and say stop saying my name and if McCain doesn't comply he should go on camera and say he is not supporting McCain. That would shut McCain up.

to leave him alone but he was still filming as of Friday for the airing last night on Faux. He put himself in the position he's in. He wanted to be the hard ass and ask Obama a hard question. He got news coverage which he was fully aware was going to happen since the camera crews were right there. He ate it up while he could make his comments on national TV, comments like Obama tap dancing like Sammy Davis Jr.

The guy told an exaggerated story that quite frankly was not believable and that's not anyone else's fault but his.