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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 12:54 PM
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Need any more proof that rightwingers are NUTS? One word; "ALINSKY"
During an interview Friday on Andrea Mitchell’s MSNBC show, Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.) said, “Obama started out with Saul Alinsky.” Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) told Chris Matthews on “Hardball” that Alinsky was “one of his teachers ...”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/1229094,CST-NWS-sweet19.article

Ummm...Alinsky died June 12, 1972.

Obama was 10.

"Country First", rightwingnuts? Or could it possibly be PARTY UBER ALLES.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 01:15 PM
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1. Oh, they love to tar all Democrats with that brush.
Alinsky was great. He was a first-rate community organizer. The republicans know that few people these days know much about Alinsky. They paint him as anti-American and try to make him and anyone who has ever been a community organizer look like a communist.

They must have gotten tired of Ayers, and they are moving on to Alinsky for awhile. Too bad for them that there are only a couple of weeks until the election. They have little time to get through the B's C's, S's, and on through the Z's of nasty radicals that they can hang around Obama's neck. They don't know enough history to do this anyway.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 01:23 PM
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2. I thought Alinsky's book one of the greatest books ever
written when I read it and have always kept a copy around. I guess when I look back on it, even though I managed to engage in a career that helped a lot of people, I still kind of copped out because I got a job.

I don't understand why people like Alinksy aren't considered just as "American" (whatever that's supposed to mean) as anyone else.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 01:50 PM
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3. I thought it would be a hit piece but it's a great article...
I like the last line...

Alinsky’s techniques were more tactical than ideological. Obama is winning in part because he created effective, penetrating organizing operations in red states like Virginia, expanding his electoral map. The Obama office I visited Saturday in McLean, Va. was humming.

Republicans need a strong ground game to counter Obama’s “movement.” They should be studying — not smearing — Alinsky.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 02:17 PM
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4. Gasp! All of the older people in my family were anti-American!
Subversives!!!!

They even tried to make me a subversive!

Why? They grew up in the Back of the Yards neighborhood in Chicago, and like everyone else in the neighborhood, were involved in the Council.

And even after most of the family had moved away to Gage and Marquette Parks, and later to Evergreen Park, they'd bring us kids back to go to the annual fair.

Who knew a Tilt-a-whirl could be a commie plot? ;-)
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-08 02:18 PM
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5. IMO Alinsky had and today's Rs have 2 very different visions of democracy--
The Republican vision harks back toward the original eighteenth-century US electorate--white men of property. Republicans are very suspicious of universal suffrage, which would endanger the wealth of the "legiitmate" white properited electorate through redistribution if everybody--even the poor, immigrants, and minorities--had a real guaranteed opportunity to vote. See page 22 of Alexander Keyssar's "The Right to Vote", at http://books.google.com/books?isbn=0465029698 :

"Give the votes to people who have no property, and they will sell them to the rich who will be able to buy them. We should not confine our attention to the present moment. The time is not distant when this country will abound with mechanics and manufacturers who will receive their bread from their employers. Will such men be the secure and faithful guardians of liberty? Will they be the impregnable barrier against aristocracy?"

The democratic vision of Alinsky and his modern-day followers is STARKLY different. See the special newsletter issue on "Community Organizing" at http://www.prrac.org/full_text.php?text_id=964&item_id=8814&newsletter_id=0&header=Community+Organizing :

"Community organizing is ... about restoring local democracy and accountability to communities--and about building leadership and empowering the disenfranchised in the process."


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