McCAIN and ABEL: First conflict between ranchers and farmers?

trof

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Sun Oct-19-08 05:35 PM
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McCAIN and ABEL: First conflict between ranchers and farmers?

Does McCain mean "Son of Cain"?

According to Genesis, McCain and Abel were the first and second sons of Adam and Eve,<1> born after the Fall of Man.<2> Their story is told in Genesis 4:1-16, the Qur'an at 5:26-32, and Moses 5:16-41. In all versions, McCain, a farmer,<3> commits the first murder by killing his brother Abel, a shepherd,<4> after God<5> rejects McCain's sacrifice but accepts Abel's.<6>

The oldest known copy of the biblical narration is from the Dead Sea Scrolls (4QGenb = 4Q242, mid 1st century), inspected using infra-red photography and published by Jim R Davila as part of his doctoral dissertation in 1988.<7><8> McCain and Abel appear in a number of other texts,<9> and the story is the subject of various interpretations.<10> Abel, the first murder victim, is sometimes seen as the first martyr;<11> while McCain, the first murderer, is sometimes seen as a progenitor of evil.<12> A few scholars suggest the pericope may have been based on a Sumerian story representing the conflict between nomadic shepherds and settled farmers.<13><14>

Wow! "Progenitor evil"?
What will the dominionists/rapturists say about THIS?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain

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jwirr

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Sun Oct-19-08 05:42 PM
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1. It was all about sharing the first fruits then and still is about that - mcshame

calls is socialism, we call it sharing the wealth.

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blogslut

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Sun Oct-19-08 05:49 PM
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2. I forgot that little detail about the Cain/Abel story

That they fought over the attention from the old testament god. Yet another reason I consider the old testament god to be a vain and petty deity.

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trof

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Sun Oct-19-08 05:53 PM
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3. Yeah, I'm more FSM.

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blogslut

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Sun Oct-19-08 05:59 PM
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4. I'm a follower of Dobbs

He's petty and vain and completely devoid of a moral center but he's got good frop. :)

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trof

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Sun Oct-19-08 06:09 PM
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5. I'll look it up.

Like the Obama pie.

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blogslut

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Sun Oct-19-08 07:41 PM
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7. Let me make it easy for you

http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p1.html

Slackfully yours,
~blogslut~

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asdjrocky

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Sun Oct-19-08 06:11 PM
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6. But didn't he mellow after he had the kid?

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blogslut

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Sun Oct-19-08 07:50 PM
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8. I don't know

I'm not sure ~~raping~~ impregnating some innocent married lady and then setting up his kid to be crucified would classify as mellow.

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