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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:12 PM
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Asswipe Chris Matthews whining about Obama raising $150,000,000
Says Obama went back on his word. Wow, what an idiot.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:13 PM
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1. McBush campaign manager Rick Davis is yacking about this too. They
can't believe that a Democrat can raise this much money from regular people and not big donors.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:54 PM
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24. Andrea Mitchell whinned about it briefly yesterday ...
It is one of the NEVER ending double standards for a D, had an R raised this much campaign donations, they would be babbling about it non stop breathlessly, and putting the burdeon the D to match it.

These pukebags go home in the clinch, they "feel sorry" for the R, no such thing for Ds.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:14 PM
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2. Up until that statement he was doing great!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:15 PM
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3. He sure was. I was loving him up 'til that statement.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:16 PM
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4. I thought he DID go back on his word. Didn't he promise to use federal funding
and then changed when his campaign realized how much more money they would have access to if they stuck with private money? It was a smart thing to do, but he did go back on his word.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:18 PM
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10. ...
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 07:19 PM by ourbluenation
Mr. Obama had pledged to meet with Mr. McCain following the primaries to attempt to work out an agreement on financing the campaigns. That meeting never took place, aides to Mr. Obama said, because a meeting between lawyers for the two sides was not fruitful. “It became clear to me that there wasn’t any basis for future discussion,” said Robert Bauer, the general counsel for Mr. Obama’s campaign.

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Charlie Black, a senior adviser to Mr. McCain, charged that Mr. Obama had “broken his word.”

In fact, Mr. Obama stopped short of making a flat promise to participate in the public financing system. Asked in a questionnaire whether he would take part if his opponents did the same, Mr. Obama wrote yes. But he added, “If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.”

Mr. Obama has since said that he would only agree to such a deal if Mr. McCain agreed to curtail spending by the Republican Party and independent groups.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/us/politics/20obamacnd.html
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:18 PM
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11. Well, not quite.
He agreed to do it of McCain would agree to certain terms, such as policing 527s for their content - McCain stalled and stalled until Obama opted out, then opted in ONLY after than, and pounced on O's announcement with premade attacks about how it broke his word.

It was mostly a bunch of political theater. Either way, neither I nor the American people (apparently) care.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:21 PM
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15. Ahhhh...thanks! n/t
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:22 PM
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17. Not quite
Try reading up on it

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/the_obama_pledge_1.html

The 'pledge' was predicated on both parties stopping any 527 swift boat ad campaigns.

Without that, then no deal and no limited funds.

Why limit our side to $84 million and let the Republicans spend $500 million saying Obama is a terrorist?

They don't like that the way he lawyered his way around the issue.

Well, too bad.

He's a legal mind and did not specifically lie. He just outgamed them.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:16 PM
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5. Jealous much Johnny boy?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:16 PM
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6. Dear Chris: no one cares.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:16 PM
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7. We should fight with one arm tied behind our backs b/c they want us to?
Tell me why is that?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:17 PM
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Dems need a winning politician, not another idealist matyr.
I was very happy when I heard that Obama decided against Public financing. Finally a democrat who can outraise the republicans.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:17 PM
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8. Obama needed wayyyy more money so he could spend it
on rebutting the lying, deceitful ba$tards he's running against.
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Medium Baby Jesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:18 PM
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9. Legitimate criticism of Obama
Not that I'm complaining provided he wins.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:19 PM
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14. No it isn't.
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:18 PM
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12. Clearly a talking point that Matthews is just repeating w/out thinking.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:18 PM
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13. Ah it is Tweety in Talking Point Memo mode.
How very attractive. Yes - Obama decided many months ago, way before the convention, that he would not be using the dysfunctional public financing system as it would cripple his campaign. Part of the problem is that CorpMedia provides almost unlimited unpaid political advertising for the Republican Party in the form of Talking Point Memo Regurgitation by yakkers like Tweety. This is news how? This happened months ago. Now it is an issue? Why? Because McCain said so?

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:21 PM
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16. Obama kept his word. McCain was unwilling to call-off the 527's.
So Obama (wisely) opted out of public funding.

(As I say this, I'm ironically watching a pro-McCain 527)
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:22 PM
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18. I would add so what if Obama went back on his word on this issue
McCain has lied over and over again during this campaign.

Two wrongs don't make a right but if you think you are going to get the shit kicked out of you because your hands are tied behind your back you will change your tactics.

The Republicans are pissed because they were got out strategized!
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:26 PM
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19. Didn't McCain violate campaign financing during the primaries?
raising too much money or something?
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:27 PM
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20. It's legit. He over-corrected in his debate with Hillary and it made him look insincere later on
HOWEVER, he made the right choice and I'm glad he did.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:29 PM
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21. He promised to negotiate with McCain.
He did. They couldn't reach an agreement. Oh well...
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:33 PM
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22. Excellent point.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 07:43 PM
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23. Ahh.. the irony of saving taxpayers $84,000,000... and taking shit for it.
:eyes:

McCain wouldn't dream of pointing out that his campaign is sponsored by taxpayers (frankly me.. :puke) and Obama's is supported by his SUPPORTERS.

Run that friggin' ad.
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maui9002 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:07 PM
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25. Whom would you rather have as President?
The guy who spent $84 million of your tax dollars waging a losing campaign?

Or the guy who spent no tax dollars (and who relied on relatively smaller donations from a much bigger group of people) waging a winning campaign?

Even a Republican should be able to answer that one.
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