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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 08:59 PM
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Since PA is the entirety of McCain's doomed strategy, not picking Ridge is comical
Edited on Mon Oct-20-08 09:17 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
If McCain is pulling out of Colorado and Iowa is already hopeless for him that's a tie at best, right? (Even if he won VA and NH that's just 269-269.)

Since McCain would lose a tie, what's the point?

It looks more and more like McCain's whole plan is to win PA, though I have never seen a poll in PA that looks better than those in states McCain has already abandoned. It's surreal...

(Miracle wins in VA and NH plus one EV from Maine would get 270, but VA is stronger for Obama than CO is. But VA is still southern, so maybe they feel better about it.)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:04 PM
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1. This is one of the stupidist campaign moves I have ever seen
and I have been following campaigns since 1988.

I seem to remember in 1996 Bob Dole spent 3 days in a row in California in September, and ran ads in the state. It availed him nothing; he lost by double digits there.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:07 PM
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3. He MUST have something up his sleeve.
There is no other rational explanation for this.

PA is not only heavily pro-Obama, it was blue in the last 4 elections.

Hopefully whatever dirty move he has planned, Obama is ready for it.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:50 PM
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10. Nah, McCain and his campaign are just incredibly inept.
Remember last year, they were all but bankrupt. Sure they pulled out a miracle, but they had a lot more time and it was only the primaries.

No, this is just them being incompetent.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:56 PM
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12. No, he really just is this FUCKED
They have no money left, and Obama's just gettin' warmed up.

They're flailing around with no strategy and no message, hoping that attacks will carry the day. It's a catastrophe.

McCain can't even afford to compete in Pennsylvania, and he's down 10+% in all polls but the Scaife rag poll, which has him down 8, or more than his lead in Georgia, fer chrissakes.

PA is finished. What McCain thinks he's doing is anyone's guess, but I don't think we should attribute it to a "master plan.' If anything, the sheer incompetence of his campaign so far would tell you that there is no master plan in the offing.
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MamaDem Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:05 PM
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2. Oh, how I love Irony!!! nt
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:08 PM
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4. This is right up there with..
Giuliani's last stand in Florida.

Good luck, Mr McCain.. NOT.. :rofl:
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WA98070 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:11 PM
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6. But, but, but....Hilary beat him there. And, and, they cling to their guns. So it is stealable.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:08 PM
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5. How well liked is Ridge there?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:12 PM
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7. Ridge is a social liberal, pro-choice, generally moderate repuke.
But the state has gone more blue since he was last in office.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:28 PM
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8. I think McCain should pull out of Virginia, New Mexico, and Nevada and send them to
Pennsylvania as well. Come on John, Pennsylvania's there for the taking!
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VoodooGuru Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:44 PM
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9. Seriously, has McCain made what you would objectively call a smart move yet?
Honestly! I can't think of even one!

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:55 PM
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11. The problem for McCain is he telegraphs
And that's not a he's-too-old-for-email joke, that's a boxing metaphor. We've known for months that his whole strategy was: keep FL and OH, turn PA to make up for whatever Obama picks off out west. So the Obama campaign knew this, and planned accordingly (it's the same thing we saw in the primaries: one and only one campaign actually adjusted its tactics to the situation on the ground. Guess which one?)

I just picture Howard Cosell saying, "Down goes McCain! Down goes McCain!"...
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