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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:51 PM
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Bush 2 Point Bounce - Smallest for Incumbent In History of Gallup Polling
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 03:49 PM by ruggerson
This has to be the mantra for the next week. Kerry surrogates should be repeating it OVER AND OVER again until they're blue in the face whenever a reporter asks them about polls.

Bush Bounce Smallest In History
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Fionn Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:54 PM
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1. Which would make it
The smallest bounce since Reagan?

Don't think that will play well.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:55 PM
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Fionn Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:58 PM
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8. Yawn.
No troll me.

Does 20 years mean since Carter (great spin) or since Reagan, - and I suggest that if it's Reagan, telling people Bush got a similar bounce to a guy who won 49 states isn't great PR for the Kerry Campaign.

But I ain't a professional.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:00 PM
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Fionn Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:04 PM
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13. Me satisfied.
Now, on what basis do you accuse ME of being a troll and not the guy who made the same point below?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:03 PM
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12. It doesn't mean that at all.
There have been four incumbents in the last twenty years:

Reagan - 1984
Bush 41 - 1992
Clinton - 1996
Bush 43 - 2004

Of those four, Bush 43 has gotten the smallest bounce from his convention. I really thought that was pretty straightforward.
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Wells Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:39 PM
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21. No Bounce for Bush
Don't believe the republican convention changed any polling. Bush got no bounce at all, as I see it. It's just as probable that the sickening, republican slime tactics have backfired. Our veterans are some of our best lie detectors. They see through the swift-boat veterans' dishonorable partisan attacks, and will vote for the more honorable candidate. Kerry is fit to command.

Kerry will win more of the popular vote than Gore did in 2000. Republicans across the nation have already decided, for good reason to vote for Kerry. Few Gore democrats are now voting for Bush; fewer admitting it publicly.

These poll results are manipulated, distorted. Don't believe them. Don't pretend they're realistic.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:04 PM
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24. You may be spot on right
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demon67 Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:55 PM
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2. Does that mean smallest bounce since Reagan in 1984?
Because that is not too comforting. If you recall, Reagan won 49 states.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:56 PM
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4. Reagan didn't need a bounce in '84.
He was already out polling Mondale like crazy.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:57 PM
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6. No, the smallest since Carter's in 1980
remember what happened there?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:34 PM
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18. I remember what happened in 1980.
And in my view, this election most closely resembles that one. You have an incumbent who the voters are not cozy with on the issues but seeks to stem a tide of swelling bad news and flailing sentiment on the one side and a challenger who is more favored on the key issues of the day, only needing to establish greater "personal credibility" in the electorate on the other.

Only difference is the in-party / out-party.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:10 PM
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14. Reagan led by 21 points, bush leads by a max of 7,,,
Big difference! bush needed a BIG bounce, Reagan didn't.
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motife Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:57 PM
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5. Only 2 comparisons though. Bush I 1992; Clinton 1996
nt
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:29 PM
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17. Hi motife!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:57 PM
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7. I'd e-mail this suggestion
to the campaign. Seriously, I think they're listening.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:00 PM
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9. I like it better..
making people think Bush got a big bounce, but then everybody had second thoughts.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:01 PM
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11. Spread it Wide: 2000's Gallup Trend chart...
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 03:02 PM by sonicx
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:14 PM
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15. How do you know?
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motife Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:28 PM
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16. Gallup: never been candidate above 50% on Labor Day who didn't win.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:37 PM
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19. Good, Bush is at 49% (RV)
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 03:37 PM by annxburns
Sorry but the way Gallup does likely voters is bogus. Likely voters only work right before the election.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:38 PM
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20. Registered Voters 49 Bush Kerry 48 - Bush is below 50
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:17 PM
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26. All incumbents who have won have had huge leads at this point.
Whether it be the one point among registered voters or the seven point among likelys, all icumbents have had much bigger leads. This is new territory.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:43 PM
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22. link from gallup
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 03:47 PM
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23. thnx sonicx
From Gallup

The Bush Bounce in Historical Context

Bush's two-point convention bounce is one of the smallest registered in Gallup polling history, along with Hubert Humphrey's two-point bounce following the 1968 Democratic convention, George McGovern's zero-point bounce following the 1972 Democratic convention, and Kerry's "negative bounce" of one point among registered voters earlier this year. Bush's bounce is the smallest an incumbent president has received.

BUSH'S BOUNCE IS THE SMALLEST AN INCUMBENT HAS RECEIVED
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:08 PM
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25. Dead cat bounce.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:45 PM
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27. Did somebody say "Dead Cat"?

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