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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:42 PM
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"she has previous history of mental issues" - MSNBC report...
She now claims to still have no explanation for the B or the bruises, and her friend also didnt believe her story.

She's really... messed in the head.

MSNBC now asking how this story got out if the Police suspected it from the start, and the local news person there at WPXI said "somebody leaked it to Drudge."
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:43 PM
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1. Thanks for not reporting that, MSM. Good to know you sat on that half of the story.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:46 PM
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2. I think I had her pegged with a borderline disorder
like those you hear of that like to disfigure themselves. I'm a nurse but not a psych nurse. However, I've run into a few of them in my 14 years. She reminds of that type of personality disorder that I've been taught of in nursing school. (I'm a hospital medical floor nurse and they come through every so often)
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:49 PM
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3. how so, exactly?
there's no doubt now that this girl is disturbed.

the fact that her story/memory keeps changing... is really sad to me.

i think she needs to be punished, but she also clearly needs some help for whatever is going on.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:30 PM
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8. Those disorders are hard to treat. But there are meds out there for it. nt
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:54 PM
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49. Borderline Personality disorder.
I've heard some people refer to those with that particular personality disorder as "bunny-boilers".

She definitely needs serious professional help...
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:50 PM
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4. I wonder if Kevin the anchor
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 01:52 PM by ErinBerin84
(who was asking why the media was reporting this when there were clearly problems with the story from the start) knows that MSNBC reported this as breaking news yesterday with NO details, really made it seem like it was an Obama supporter's doing.


McCain/Palin should auction off her RNC threads and donate the money to a mental health awareness charity (even if this girl doesn't prove to have diagnosed mental problems).
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:51 PM
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5. She Ain't Messed In The Head. She's Covering Her Lyin Bitch Ass.
Doesn't remember how the B got there. What a crock of friggin shit.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:53 PM
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6. She's Vicky Pollard re: Little Britain
"Yeahbut! Nobut! Yeahbut!"

"I'm CrAZY! Only did it 'cuz I'm CrAzY! So you can't do anything to meh, ya know!11111"
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:05 AM
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16. I tend to agree. Yes, she definitely has issues (I mean, she's volunteering for McCain!)
but I think she knows exactly how that B got there and the makeup bruises.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:22 AM
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35. Well, maybe once we have national health care, including mental health care,
crazies like her can get the help they need. BEFORE they go ballistic.

I'm counting on Obama for this. If he does nothing else, except,of course, getting US out of Iraq and ending American imperialism once and for all, he will go down in history as a successful President.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:28 AM
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43. I agree! nt
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:29 AM
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44. Exactly. Uh,,,I don't remember, I'm sick..... Lying racist pig.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:54 PM
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7. B is for Blackout. File under D for Drunk.
No big mysterious mental illness. Gal has a drinking problem. They can start early.

She wanted to help out McPanic and Failin and fell in line with their campaign direction to stir up hatred. She did her bit.

She's made false accusations before, but the one I heard of about having her signs taken by the janitor, was also in support of the campaign style being encouraged by McPanic and Failin.

Give up the booze for a while and let's see.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:32 PM
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9. Druuuuuuuuuudge!
The media needs to start ignoring him. Not that they will.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:31 AM
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47. I see Drudge has more 'scary Negro' headlines this morning, the fearmonger.
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ROh70 Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:41 PM
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10. The real question - Why did the McCain campaign
push this story, hard, when it was pretty clear that the story simply did not add up?
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:47 PM
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12. They were hoping that it would stick....
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:38 AM
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28. Evilness essentially
Urban riots for the week heading into and during the election would please McCain/GOP/NeoCons/Fundies.

I do not believe the young woman acted alone; this was a campaign plot with plausible deniability eg insanity, Todd a Paul supporter, etc.

I hope it is fully investigated and prosecuted including the paths into the media and connections to the McCain campaign and Young Replublicans.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 PM
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11. If there is a history of mental illness, I for one, hope she gets the
treatment she needs. Perhaps this will develop into a situation where she can receive said treatment.

This young woman made a fool of herself, nationally no less, and her family has, undoubtably been sent into a situation they most likely feel very uncomfortable in.

I find the whole situation sad. Perhaps she would not have "fallen through the cracks" if we had better mental health care. This shows me another reason why universal health care is so important.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:56 PM
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13. For a moment there I thought you were talking about Ann Coulter
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:22 AM
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37. I thought Sarah Palin
my bad.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:59 PM
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14. Note that SHE was the one that said she has a history of mental illness
The police did not say that - they are just repeating what she said as her explanation. Her "explanation" is just as bad as her original story. Neither are plausible and full of holes.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:06 AM
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18. Yeah, I was floored when Anderson Cooper and co. were taking this seriously.
I mean, didn't you guys JUST do a report on how much this girl has LIED? Now you're buying the "I blacked out and suddenly found my face carved up" bullshit? Uuughhhh.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:02 AM
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15. If by "mentally ill" she means "racist"
Then by all means, she's mentally ill. Just because she took her racism farther than most racist women would doesn't make her crazy, it just makes her dedicated to bigotry.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:14 AM
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20. I see a sad and pathetic little girl ....
crying for attention ....

Im going to presume poor parenting in a viciously republican home, and a sad desire to be accepted ....

She needs help ....
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:16 AM
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25. She could cry for help
In a way that doesn't involve fanning the flames of racism, filing false police reports, etc. If she had, for her imaginary attacker, chosen someone other than a 6'4" black guy, it would be much easier for me to pity her. She's also not a little girl. She knew what she was doing was wrong; an eight year old could tell you that it was wrong.

Most men who beat their wives suffer from low self-esteem and did not learn adequate coping mechanisms as children. It doesn't mean I feel sorry for them.
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:06 AM
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17. Ya tink?
:yoiks:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:12 AM
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19. Yeah, the one who thinks the best fun a girl could have is lying.
Do you see what she could be referring to? It's lies like these, to why some are sitting in prison for life, and some even on death role for crimes they didn't commit.

If you think she is going to be played with by some news pundits to her mental state, you just better do some real research on the justice system. The courts will determine her mental state, and not the news.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:15 AM
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21. She's lying through her buck teeth. She knows exactly what she did. This was a premeditated act.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:17 AM
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22. So.. which McCain person leaked it to DRUDGE? Enquiring minds want to know...
cuz if it was proven that they advanced this story, it would make things even more pitiful for McCain.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:33 AM
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24. After a little thought....... If this chica didn't have some sort of mental disorder before this
than she certainly has one now since her ass got cold cocked busted.

Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we found out she fell under the puke influence much the same way some fall under the trance of whack job Christian fanaticism or even a pimp entraps fresh game to use and abuse at will.

If something was lacking in her life in any way, then the huge ego boost these nutjob repubs gave her was enough to push her over and out of rational thought.

I don't know anything about her history. I wonder how long she's been a GOP recruit?



:shrug:
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:29 AM
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26. I think the mental disorder she has is called "Republicanism". Outbursts of hatred, fear, and
ignorance are some the symptoms of this dreadful mental disorder.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:30 AM
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27. of course she does..
and if she had been a little more believable, the tv people would say that the black man they would by now have picked up for attacking her had mental issues as well...but that wouldn't stop the tv people from blaming Obama and turning this into a public lynching.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:39 AM
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29. I thought this was a quote about Palin
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:45 AM
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30. There's a rumor that Ms. Todd lied at some point about having cancer & even wore a wig
pretending she lost her hair because of chemo.

If this is true, then she does have a history of outrageous lies to try to get attention & sympathy. Truly mentally ill.

The problem with her latest lie was it had the potential to severely hurt a lot of people, not just herself.

No sympathy from me.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:49 AM
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31. if she truly has a history of mental health problems...
Then it highlights the dignity of the Obama campaign and the disgrace of the Mccain campaign, since they basically not only exploited this poor girl... but helped fuel this disgraceful story into the media frenzy it became.

I would point out that SHE is the one who said she has mental problems. It may not be true.

I suspect it is true, and even if i can feel sorry for her on that basic human weakness... it doesn't take away from the responsibility she has for her actions. What she did was wrong and there is no way i can be convinced she was so troubled that she was unable to determine right from wrong.

She can talk to a therapist in jail...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 09:53 AM
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32. An idiot right winger on our local board actually gave credit to Malkin and O'Reilly
for being the "first media" to suspect this girl's story.

I told him that DUers never believed her in the first place. And it really isn't right to refer to Michelle and Bill as 'media' since they were more like hatemongers than journalists.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:03 AM
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33. "Claims" is the operative word in that sentence.

Sometimes a liar is just a liar.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:28 AM
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42. if she also lied about having mental health issues...
then she really needs to skip jail and just go straight to hell.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:51 PM
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48. She didn't have to lie.
"Mental health issues" are as common as the common cold. Nowadays, the term covers everything from well-validated, clearly biologically-based illnesses like schizophrenia to a nasty personality. How many people here at DU have "mental health issues"? That does not mean that you would excuse behavior like this on their part.

She is lying about the amnesia. The only psychiatric disorders that contain amnesia as a symptom are the highly questionable ones.
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:21 AM
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34. what, you whined your way out of your tombstone??
they'll let anybody back on here nowadays....
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:24 AM
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38. ok mr 300 posts...
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 10:24 AM by Essene
read the rules.

all i did was call for calm heads, to wait for the full truth... and that if she was proven to be lying we expect charges to be filed.
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:30 AM
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46. so why were you served pizza? it wasn't based on just one post, but a history of them
don't worry, most here already know your intent.

enjoy the next 10 days!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:22 AM
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36. Weren't you the one defending her story?
Why are you changing your tune now?
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:26 AM
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40. flamed for saying to RELAX... and i never "defended her side of the story"
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 10:27 AM by Essene
and here we go again...

there was a hateful mob in the hour after the story broke. i said i was skeptical, but we needed to calm down.

i explicitly said thought she should go to jail it broken to be lying. and i was one of the first people to point out when she WAS proven to be lying.

flame away... i guess...
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:09 PM
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51. Your judgment was emphatically lousy then. Has it improved any since?
Signs are pointing to no.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:26 AM
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39. McCain should have never picked her.
:bounce:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:27 AM
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41. Another fake claim by MSNBC? Do they have proof of this history?
Or are they once again taking her lies for truth and running with it?

Obviously, if she acted 100% alone, then that indicates mental problems... but what if she didn't act alone?
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:29 AM
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45. 1. this thread is from yesterday 2. she was the source
MSNBC was talking to a local news reporter in PA who passed on this story that she allegedly had mental health issues.

It turns out that SHE was the one saying it. I haven't seen any confirmation on whether it's true.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:07 PM
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50. Does she have memory of her Twitter posts? Her call to the cops?
Her story fabrication including beatings, sexual assault, dialogue, and the exact dollar value of the mugging? She's not crazy in any legal sense. To be a hardcore McCain volunteer you have to be crazy in the colloquial sense, but so what?
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