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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:09 PM
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Tennessee Volunteers a history and what the B girl chose to wear on arrest
The Name comes from the Civil War NOT FROM ANYTHING ELSE
even the school chose that name for a reason


She doesn't even go to school there.








The name comes from the civil War.
http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/usainf/usa10inf.html
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:11 PM
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1. I thought it came from the War of 1812
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 11:15 PM by BayouBengal07
The term "Volunteer Infantry Regiment" was used throughout the North and South during the Civil War to describe volunteer regiments.

Edit - See Wiki: "The Volunteers (or Vols as it is commonly shortened to) derive that nickname from the State of Tennessee's nickname. Tennessee is known as the "Volunteer State", a nickname it earned during the War of 1812, in which volunteer soldiers from Tennessee played a prominent role, especially during the Battle of New Orleans.<4>"
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:14 PM
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4. It was for those that fought for slavery for their state as volunteers

For the confederacy.

That's what it really means.
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:17 PM
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6. The term volunteer as used in the civil war?
No, that was used to describe non-conscripted regiments.


Here's a website devoted to the 48th Ohio Volunteer Infantry Regiment: http://www.48ovvi.org

The Fourth Michigan VIR: http://www.4thmichigan.com/\

The 28th Massachusetts VIR: http://www.28thmass.org/

And so on. Those were not slave regiments.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:22 PM
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12. No it wasn't.....
... I mean I suppose you could make the argument that men volunteered to fight for the TN army during the civil war and that parts of the state (ironically not the Eastern part where UT is) supported slavery but no as already been stated, it goes back to the war of 1812 ..... I have lived here all my life, one of the largest Civil War memorial battleground parks is 10 miles from my house and yours is the first I've ever heard linking "Volunteers" with slavery.

I love ya Iching, but I gotta disagree with you on this one.

(but yes, the girl is a twit with horrible fashion sense) :)
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:29 PM
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18. OK..... I'll let it go

I'm too much of a "The medium is the message" Marshall McLuhan type guy
and her 15 minutes of fame.

I read too much into things at some times.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:33 PM
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22. lol .... cool, we'll let you have the next one. ;) NT
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:09 AM
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47. Is that the battle at Franklin...
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The Shadow Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:41 PM
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31. Volunteers Were Simply The Reservists Of That Time
Volunteers were universal to all states and territories for most of the 19th century. Synonymous with militias, reservists etc. Nothing more.
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 PM
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36. NO, it doesn't.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 08:08 AM
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57. WRONG.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:17 PM
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5. Thank you....
I was just about to say that. I'm all for calling out southern racism where it exists, but this is not one of those times.

I am an Alabama fan who lives in Tennessee, I am TICKLED FLIPPIN PINK that this chic was arrested wearing a UT shirt on the day BEFORE the UT/Bama game (one of the biggest rivalries in college football.)

The gO'bama effect is still in play! lol

ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:18 PM
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8. Bama?
You guys have a big date with us in Death Valley on November 8th.

Geaux Tigers!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:25 PM
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13. Oh, we've got a date with destiny tomorrow.....
.... and I fear it may be a fate worse than death! lol

We have no depth, we have everything at stake, and TN has nothing to lose. Plus, one of our best players is out.

Usually, I take the Bear Bryant approach and just talk up a big loss as not to sound cocky, but this time I mean it!!! We're goin' down and we're goin' down hard tommorow! lol

But oh well, Roll Tide anyway!!! lol
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 PM
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35. Tennessee sucks ASS this year.
You guys will roll over them.


Speaking of, did you see WVU smack Auburn 34-17 last night? Yeesh!
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:47 PM
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38. Tennessee will win.
Fulmer's job is on the line, and you can never apply stats, logic, or the teams' records to the Tennessee-Alabama game. Too bad all we have is the ability to play spoiler this year. Even though a loss might get us a new coach, I can't pull for my school to lose.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:51 PM
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43. Yeah, that's the conundrum this year - pull for the loss to get rid of Fulmer, or pull for the game
I'm having a really hard time with this one, because Tennessee desperately needs a new coach. But I need Tennessee to win to give Penn State a shot at the National Championship if they can get past the Buckeyes tomorrow night.
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:43 AM
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55. Go, Joe the Coach!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:48 PM
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39. TN and Alabama always play each other tough - but I doubt it will be the case this year
Words can't describe how horrible they are on Offense and the playcalling is like watching John McCain's campaign - erratic and senile.

As long as Alabama comes at them hard on D, they'll roll over them like nobody's business.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:51 PM
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41. From your lips to......
Bear Bryant's ears. :)
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:44 AM
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56. Which I'm sure are perked up due to Saban's 4 million$ per year
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:21 PM
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11. Love your pie!
Pie avatars could be a secret codeword among Obama supporter posters everywhere!

I wonder if sales of frozen pies have gone up since Obama keeps mentioning pie? I'm sure there'll be news of one to come....
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:28 PM
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16. lol thanks...
... I am using this same avatar on another message board that is NOT politics related and where they're all sick of hearing me talk about the Messiah (but I'm the admin of the board so they can all suck it, right? LOL)

Anyway, after I made them all mad with my "One House, One Spouse" avatar, I had vowed to go avatarless as a form of protest.

Until I decided to sneak in a piece of pie! lol

And THEN the next day, the MSM blew up my pie spot and now they've all figured me out! lol
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:19 PM
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10. I disagree..... even thought that's true of their partial contribution in 1812
the volunteers had even more stuff in the Civil war
when battalions were set up to fight against the north.


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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:32 PM
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21. and just because I'm a bit buzzed and feel like arguing ... lol
... I'm gonna point out one more time the East Tennesseans who are the big time Vols fans are the great grandchildren of Union sympathizers.

The great grandchildren of the slave owners are in middle and west Tennessee and are Vandy fans. :)

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:12 PM
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2. Volunteers is before the Civil War, its from the War of 1812...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 11:14 PM by ingac70


What the fuck does it have to do with that bitch anyhow?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:12 PM
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3. I could really slap the shit out of her...sorry...had to get that off
my chest.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:17 PM
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7. FAIL!
:D



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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:18 PM
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9. Perfect. n/t
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:25 PM
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14. Sorry Swampy
I knew White Racist in my youth that played
those civil war games racist trips. I've known Klan people,
I grew up in the south and know the key codes.


I guess she just choose that sweat for another reason


Oh well, Nothing happened in New Orleans either in Katrina.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:30 PM
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19. Wait a second - so wearing UT shirts is a code word for being a Klansmen?
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 11:32 PM by TornadoTN
Then you might not want to be anywhere near Knoxville tommorrow, I hear theres a quite a few of them going to a ball game.


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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:35 PM
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25. Works for me!!! :-)


I mean .... ya know ........ 'cause we've certainly never had any KKK folks in Alabama! (ha ha)
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:36 PM
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27. Tommorrow is shaping up to be a complete ass-whooping
I left my allegiance to UT at the door when I graduated. I've never seen a more corrupt school when it comes to sports.

I latched onto Penn State when I started my graduate degree up there, haven't looked back - even though I live in Tennessee now :)
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:40 PM
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30. yes, for Alabama I'm afraid...
... as I said up-thread ..... I think this may very well be the end of our streak. I can feel it in ma bones.

But if Alabama DOES pull off another win, I'm gonna consider the Obama (gO-bama) affect to be a total sucess and consider the election a done deal too! lol

(FYI, I have categorical and statistical proof that Alabama's victory over Georgia was clearly and directly attributable to the Senator from IL. Why? Because you can't with with a gimmick! Be it a black jersey ....... or a hockey mom. :) )
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:45 PM
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37. Have you seen Tennessee play this year? Horrific doesn't begin to describe it
Beating up on Mississippi State proves nothing (as you well know). The Vols are about as inept as John McCain's campaign and they have a fool running the program (just like John McCain). The only thing you guys have to worry about is the defense, which is solid but not foolproof. The offense is just a wreck. I wouldn't worry about Stevens or Crompton, the third stringer Coleman, if he sees the field is the real deal though, but he doesn't have any weapons around him.

I wouldn't lose much sleep over the game tonight. Stranger things have happened but this team is just a mess.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:28 PM
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15. Why oh why did she have to wear that shirt?
I am half tempted to burn my degree in disgust!

Of course, most of the people down here think Tennessee is a football team first and foremost, so it's not the first time a lying and dumb inbred have donned the colors.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:33 PM
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23. Well, I thought it was something else, sorry, since it was a race baiting crime
I'm a follower of the concept of use of media by Marshall McLuhan

and the 15 minutes of fame.

Apologies.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:36 PM
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26. There's a football team at UT? who knew?
(and yes, I'm gonna chase you all over the thread ha ha)
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:39 PM
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29. Could have fooled me too.
The whining and crying from UT fans here this season has been unreal. Honestly, it's gotten to be just as bad distraught Republicans, except I can take joy in seeing distraught Republicans. I can't celebrate UT's demise as a football program because I went there and my wife hasn't stopped being a fan since she went there.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:42 PM
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32. lol, well if 'Bama wins tomorrow, give her a big old smooch from me!
And tell her a fellow Obama supporter and Crimson Tide fan in Chattanooga says "hey!" lol
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:29 PM
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17. If you're going to talk about Tennessee, please get it right....
...

Tennessee acquired its name "The Volunteer State" in the early days of the nineteenth century in the War of 1812. At the request of President James Madison, Gen. Andrew Jackson, later President, mustered 1500 from his home state to fight the Indians and later the British at the Battle of New Orleans. The men never actually fought in battle and Jackson was so frustrated by the inactivity that he marched the men home at his own expense and his determined stance on their behalf earned him the nickname "Old Hickory."

The name became even more prominent in the Mexican War when Gov. Aaron V. Brown issued a call for 2800 men to battle Santa Ana and some 30,000 Tennesseans volunteered


http://www.collegefootballhistory.com/tennessee/history.htm
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:31 PM
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20. Don't bother, the OP is dead set that UT apparell is "code word" for RACIST
:eyes: :eyes:

Seriously. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:44 PM
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33. Well, you know how it goes...
...facts are bothersome things.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:51 PM
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42. She's still a racist fuck
and all the fixin's of the south won't help her.

Besides the University of Texas will kick everyone's ass in football this year
and her Texas A&M team will go no where.


I still want to know......... Why did she chose that sweat
she had no relationship to that state.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:53 PM
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44. Of course she is. The rest of your post is inchoherent.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:07 AM
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46. Yeah Ok. You all are right... I just want to know why she as a Texan
would buy and wear that sweat when she knew she was gonna be arrested.

I agree a bad slam on Tennessee, but why a Tennessee volunteers sweatshirt?
A college student from Texas would never wear that unless there was real connections
to that state. Then she wears it in Pennsylvania?

She has only lived and went to school in Texas and visited New York.
And as far as I know, she had no family from Tennessee.

Where did she get the sweat from? A friend? She was picked up
at where she stayed. Did she share the place with a Republican
kid from Tennessee.


Just tracing down the story but I hope everyone knows
who Marshall McLuhan is and the use of media and propaganda.
He is world famous on academic circles.





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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:12 AM
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48. Well we do know she is an accomplished liar
On her Twitter page she bragged about lying to Steelers fans while phone banking. Also, she was in New York State doing the same kind of stuff at SUNY. It's clear she's just a liar that wears many different masks (she was a Ron Paul supporter but she somehow has become a McCain loyalist that rivals his fiercest supporters).

I wouldn't doubt that she has a whole collection of shirts to match whoever she is supporting at the time - the proverbial bandwagon fan but she does it to gain attention and acceptance even more.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:12 AM
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49. Who knows? She's a college kid who could have puked or wetted...
...in her clothes the night before and had nothing to wear? Could have borrowed it from a fellow repuke? Could be some guy she's doing from Tennessee? Who knows?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #49
50. Well, we now have someone that claims she went to his place
during the arrest on DU.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:17 AM
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51. Link? Who's the guy?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:19 AM
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53. Just started...
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:21 AM
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54. Thanks. This ought to be fun!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. No denying she's a racist - as for her shirt, I'd like to know too
Maybe it was a friends? Maybe she picked it up on vacation one year? Maybe she's a fan because she has a crush on Phil Fulmer?

Plenty of reasons why she might have worn it, but I don't think it was meant to imply anything racist.
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:44 PM
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34. Hurray! I'm glad you corrected it, because I was going insane. n/t
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:50 PM
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40. No problem. I get a little miffed...
...with historical revisionism.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:35 PM
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24. Her black eye really healed quickly
;)
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:37 PM
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28. Jesus
and republicans have a way with bruises.



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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:19 AM
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52. They should have made her turn the sweatshirt inside-out. n/t
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Sheltiemama Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 07:05 PM
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58. Maybe it's from the police station.
I was watching one of those medical shows that's shot in an ER last night on Discover Health. A doctor went to a closet they where they keep clothing that patients leave behind to replace a shirt they had to cut off a patient. Maybe police stations have a similar closet. I saw video of her being questioned, and she was wearing a black T-shirt with the arms cut off. Maybe it was chilly outside, so they gave her a sweatshirt someone else left behind.

I work for a paper in Tennessee, and we've heard of no UT connection yet. And I hope there isn't one.
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