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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:11 AM
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Give Ashley a choice: Go to jail or
join the Army.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:12 AM
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1. jail. too much freedom and priviliges in army. little cell, total restriction. n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:12 AM
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2. You want her carrying a gun?
I don't.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:43 AM
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18. They gave that option to Track Palin.
I don't want him carrying a gun, either.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:02 PM
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28. It's sarcasm poking fun at Palin's son who joined the Army to avoid jail time.
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gabby garcia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:12 AM
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3. why would you want
that freakshow anywhere near our military?
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:19 AM
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4. She needs help.
That girl has some serious mental disorders.

She needs help, now.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:23 AM
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9. Have you seen documentation from health care professionals that I have not?
At this point I'm going with this: She is a race-baiting republican operative who did not act alone. No pity or sympathy here. Her crime should be elevated to a hate-crime.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 11:58 AM
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20. No documentation,
Edited on Sat Oct-25-08 12:07 PM by Kajsa
the fact that she carved that backwards 'B'
onto her own face says a lot about her mental state.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:11 PM
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23. Those are minor scratches, NOT carvings.
It is easy to slightly abrade your skin in this way. What is more telling is her pulling a "Mayella" (blame the big black man, from To Kill a Mockingbird). Instigating racial violence is criminal. Some may sane insane, some may be insane, but criminal indeed.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:27 PM
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24. No doubt she is a criminal.

No one contested that fact.

But she's also insane.

Those were much deeper than superficial abrasions.
When it hurts to nick yourself shaving, you can only
imagine what carving those letters felt like.

She is criminally insane.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:11 PM
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31. Or just a dedicated Republican operative.
You jump too fast to that conclusion.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:29 PM
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38. Those are superficial abrasions. Won't leave a scar unless she picks at them.
It is easy to scrape yourself like this. Haven't you ever scraped yourself by accident, or given yourself a red mark when scratching? Those scratches didn't draw blood, are shallower than nicking yourself shaving.

Unless you have evaluated her, or have proof of her being "criminally insane", you are only pulling a Frist here.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:09 PM
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29. Or her conniving mind.
You are assuming too much.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:29 AM
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13. Needs help or not, she could have thrown PA into the GOP's win column
Think of the damage she attempted. Suppose this wasn't found out until after Nov. 4th.

I have no pity for her.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:00 PM
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21. She did cause a lot of damage,

and she should be held accountable.

Her insanity should be
taken into account so she gets help.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:12 PM
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32. She MUST prove her insanity, it can not be assumed.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:22 PM
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37. I agree with you there.

n/t
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:15 PM
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35. True...but Policemen, regardless of politics....do not enjoy being lied to !
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:02 PM
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22. Very likely.
She certainly needs to be evaluated by a mental health professional - let him or her make the diagnosis.

If she's mentally ill, she should be compelled to get treatment - after all, she committed acts that are evidence that she's a danger to herself or others.

If she's not mentally ill, off to jail with her!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:29 PM
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26. I agree, backscatter.

Thank you for being a voice of reason.

:)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:34 PM
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27. No problem.
I've seen a couple of these things before - people who've committed terrible acts (and don't get me wrong - what Ashley Todd did was damned despicable - we're fortunate in that she was so incompetent in her act of deception that she got caught quickly and early. Innocent people could have gone to jail, we could have seen hate-crimes as a result of her accusations)

Sometimes, it's just a person being an asshole. But frequently, it is a person who is genuinely mentally ill, and in that case, the appropriate thing to do is treat the illness.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:13 PM
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33. Sure, but insanity is a defense that she must prove.
The onus is on her, legally.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:20 AM
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5. jail (with meds and a therapist)
our troops have had it bad enough.

sending her would be an added insult.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:21 AM
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6. Nah. Shotgun wedding.
Would Levi Johnson please pick up the white courtesy phone.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:22 AM
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7. I think her sentence should be 2 years of painting and other
maintenance work for women's shelters and veterans' hospitals.

She should be required to serve as a worker to help people who actually are victims of circumstances which should give her some time and opportunity to fully weigh her decision to bear false witness.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:23 AM
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8. NO!! I do NOT approve of giving proven psychos guns. n/t
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:26 AM
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10. Snitch off who put her up to it
Get your tin foil hats here folks - I think this goes much higher up the food chain then a simple 'B' Girl

ACORN - canvassers infiltrated by GOP operatives

AZ Campaign Headquarters - falsified contributions forms by GOP operatives
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:26 AM
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11. nope
don't need her kind in the army
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:26 AM
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12. How about going on stage with McCain admitting her fraudulent activities
This woman could have done ENORMOUS damage if the story hadn't collapsed.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:39 AM
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16. I like that, handcuff her to McCain and Palin for the next 11 days... nt
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:38 AM
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14. Because every lunatic should have a gun.
I'd feel safer with her in jail with a cell phone. (All of the state prisons in Texas were in lockdown for searches this week. 13 cell phones were found in various prison cells. Guards are the likely culprits.)
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:38 AM
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15. That's unfair to any who would have to serve with her...Put her in KP, forever.
She can serve somehow without having to ruin the workplace of others, otherwise sentence her to permanent community service in inner-city areas. For Ever.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:40 AM
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17. how about community service in the southside of chicago.
ought to be a real eye-opener.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 10:44 AM
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19. For life. nt
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 12:27 PM
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25. Hell, that's how most of the men in my family joined the Army.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:10 PM
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30. Good ONe!
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Sewsojm Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:14 PM
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34. She's a nut case and belongs in a padded cell!!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-08 01:16 PM
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36. Infantry.....
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