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Bippity Boo Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 03:19 AM
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Margaret Atwood wrote a book about a Palin presidency...


If you haven't read it, read it.



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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 03:30 AM
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1. Did in high school. Reread a couple of years ago.
Scared shitless both times. Though the book is scarier than the movie.

Of course, in Gilead, Palin would never have been allowed to get above Serena Joy status. Or maybe she would've been allowed to serve as President long enough to get her doctrines the law of the land-- then she'd be executed or sent to Jezebel's for her gender trangressions.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 03:32 AM
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2. can you imagine discussing Atwood's short story "Rape Fantasies" here?
That might cause a ruckus. :)
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Bippity Boo Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:00 AM
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3. I haven't read that story...
But a very un-PC romantic triangle was at the center of her book "Oryx and Crake:" two rich white dudes competing for the love of the Chinese kiddie porn model they found on the internet while surfing the web in high school.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:49 PM
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17. That was a great story!
Do women still have fantasies like that? :D
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 04:04 AM
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4. I admit I haven't yet read the links you provided, but
has Palin been around long enough for anyone to write books about a possible if improbable Palin presidency? A few months ago she was just some frozen idiot. Today she is simply an idiot. And somebody has written a book about her being president? I don't doubt it. We've already had one idiot president in Dubya. I'm just curious as to whether we're already contemplating another half wit.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:54 AM
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5. It is a good way to quickly make some serious cash
A book about Palin would be an instant bestseller now.
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:58 AM
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7. It's not actually about Palin
it's a book about a future where the American government has been replaced by a fascist theocracy and fertile women are subjected to sexual slavery. It was actually written after Reagan came to power.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:11 PM
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15. oops... misunderstood.
I thought she was talking about a book that someone wanted to write right now about Palin. Oopsie :blush:

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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:17 PM
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19. It reminds me now of the women under the Taliban.
Yet it was here and it happened. Women had no rights.

Tell everyone you know esp. women to vote for Obama.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:18 PM
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20. I've always felt that Republican men would prefer Stepford Wives.
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MonteLukast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 05:35 AM
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24. They do. Much less likely to interfere with their decision making...
... and much more likely to willingly bear a large number of Repug heirs.
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BleedingHeartRN Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:57 AM
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6. Great book!
Scary as shit, though. I read it about 4-5 years ago, and it was very timely given the power of the religious right. I highly recommend it or any of Atwoods other novels. She's a very talented writer.
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votetastic Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:01 AM
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8. Great book!
I like the movie too.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:03 AM
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9. I knew it before I even clicked the thread!
:-)

And Robert Duvall - big old Rethug hack? He played in the movie version. :rofl:

Seriously though - It was chilling years ago - it's even more chilling now. :tinfoilhat:Talk about Serena Joy being brought to life. :scared:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 06:21 PM
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21. Same here. This one is a giveaway.
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:09 AM
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10. Amazing book. Atwood is one of my favorite authors.
Oryx and Crake was a little too creepy for me though.
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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:11 AM
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11. And by the way, I totally disagree that Palin's presidency would be like that.
She'd never get anything done.

And I seriously doubt we'll ever get the chance to find out.
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:20 AM
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12. I read it in middle school and what didn't go over my head, scared me senseless.
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:20 AM
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13. Duplicate.
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 11:21 AM by Chloroplast
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 12:35 PM
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14. One of the most frequently challenged library books
by christians
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:44 PM
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16. . .
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 05:54 PM
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18.  a few years ago we had a long discussion here
Edited on Sun Oct-26-08 05:55 PM by JitterbugPerfume
about A Handmaids Tale. We used to discuss things in depth when we were a smaller group.


Little did we think that we would come this close to LIVING it! Sara Palin scares me !
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 08:22 PM
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22. Serena Joy was the FIRST think that flashed through
my mind when I heard about Palin's extremist religious views. Scary indeed how close we've come to The Handmaid's Tale.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:37 PM
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23. There's also movie on DVD
Don't get me wrong, the book is better, but if you don't have time for a book, get the DVD. Starring It starred Natasha Richardson (Offred), Faye Dunaway (Serena Joy), Robert Duvall (Fred), Aidan Quinn (Nick), and Elizabeth McGovern (Moira).
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-08 06:16 AM
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25. Interesting article compares Palin to the "Aunts" rather than to Serena Joy
Edited on Mon Oct-27-08 06:17 AM by kayell
I have also pictured Palin as Serena Joy, but this is an interesting comparison.

http://www.truthout.org/093008R?page=1
Welcome to Gilead, Governor Palin
"And the Aunts - who are middle-aged white women of some previous prestige and education - are especially sinister characters. The primary job of the Aunts is to keep the handmaids (the childbearers) subservient. They go about this by convincing the handmaids that they are powerless and can only contribute to society when they fulfill their God-given responsibility to serve the commanders. The Aunts' job, put simply, is to exploit other women by keeping them submissive and telling them that it's for the good of all (and even more insidiously, that in obeying, the handmaids "empower" themselves.) What makes the Aunts so remarkable is their collective failure to realize that they are simply being used by the commanders to keep other women in line, and their willingness - glee, even - at doing so is simultaneously sad and terrifying. So what compels the Aunts to become traitors to both their sex and their country? First, they believe that their contribution to the repressive social order is righteous, and second, they've found that under this rigid system of social control, they have the illusion of a tiny bit of power.

Does any of this sound familiar? It should. Governor and Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin is the Gileadian "Aunt" manifested. Her sudden emergence onto the American political scene, accompanied by a burst of enthusiasm on the part of many American women, is a surreal example of life imitating art. Much of Palin's rhetoric, tactics and personal philosophy seem to be taken directly from the Auntie training manual. By accepting the position on the GOP ticket despite her astonishing lack of qualifications, Palin signaled that she was prepared to be used - on the basis of her sex alone - in exchange for the promise of status and power. "
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