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Blu Dahlia Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:41 AM
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The characters are so clear. John McCain is the grizzly, staunch, experienced commander (Gene Hackman) who in light of his cold-war mentality takes having his finger on the button very seriously. Unfortunately he is more inclined to take that serious mission to its logical conclusion - at some point you have to push the button. Barack Obama, however, is the Harvard educated, bright, clear thinking, philosophical younger officer of conscience (Denzel Washington) who refuses to react out of fear. His education informs the kind of decisions he makes, and the seriousness with which he dispatches his responsibilities is always tempered with a global perspective. It is the idea that unintended consequences are not situations that you fall victim to, if you are willing to think it through. If you are willing to apply what you have learned

I have always liked this movie, and I think I would still find it pertinent even if Obama didn't have the obvious attributes and star qualities of an actor like Denzel. The story itself is the real parrallel. Iran is the myriad of Russian targets that we know (as observers) should not be hit. McCain has his finger on the button, and due to his vast experience, training, and hyper-vigilance is going to stop at nothing to let those bombs fly. Obama is the last hope we have of the sane, methodical, cool-under-pressure commander who can see the ramifications of his actions, even though he has never faced a situation of this magnitude. Being able to see clearly in the middle of many agendas is what his education was about in the first place.

The more I think about it, the closer the story resonates. It is almost frightening how close. As McCain makes his case for his vast war experience being the deciding factor for the presidency, he leaves us vulnerable to the horrific results that are likely to unfold. Now that Iran is flirting with nuclear power the similarity only tightens. As Obama presents his arguments in a measured and cautious manner he is both praised and villified. People mistake thoughtfullness for calculation, they mistake coolness for uncaring. But this thoughfullness, coolness and measured caution is how he is going to approach some of the most dynamic and potentially disasterous crisis we have seen since we acquired the ability to blow each other up.

I, for one, want the movie's ending. The old guy retires with commendation, and the young guy gets command. The battle between young and old is not seen as the end, but as the beginning of what is more informed, more palpable, and quite frankly, more conscious.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/its-not-rocky-its-crimson-tide.php
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 10:42 AM
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1. Life imitating art, once again...hopefully.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 11:03 AM
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2. The story is all about the ambiguity
and the impossibility of knowing for sure for sure what is the right course in a real combat situation. For example, you leave out the Russian attack submarine that is trying to blow the Alabama out of the water before she can launch ... a tactical situation adding considerable urgency and uncertainty to the whole damn situation. If Denzel has made the wrong choice, millions of Americans can be vaporized. If Gene has made the wrong choice, global thermonuclear war is a real possibility. How can the stakes possibility be higher?

In the end, both men are right and both men are wrong. The real story is about how they were unable to resolve their differences and maintain the process by which the decision to release strategic nuclear weapons is reached. In that I find a real metaphor for the conduct of politics in recent years ... the process, the protocol by which sane decisions are reached and implemented has broken down, turning it into (metaphorically speaking) an armed struggle.

Trav
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