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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:31 AM
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George Will: Call Him John the Careless

Call Him John the Careless

By George F. Will
Thursday, October 30, 2008; Page A23

From the invasion of Iraq to the selection of Sarah Palin, carelessness has characterized recent episodes of faux conservatism. Tuesday's probable repudiation of the Republican Party will punish characteristics displayed in the campaign's closing days.

Some polls show that Palin has become an even heavier weight in John McCain's saddle than his association with George W. Bush. Did McCain, who seems to think that Palin's never having attended a "Georgetown cocktail party" is sufficient qualification for the vice presidency, lift an eyebrow when she said that vice presidents "are in charge of the United States Senate"?

She may have been tailoring her narrative to her audience of third-graders, who do not know that vice presidents have no constitutional function in the Senate other than to cast tie-breaking votes. But does she know that when Lyndon Johnson, transformed by the 1960 election from Senate majority leader into vice president, ventured to the Capitol to attend the Democratic senators' weekly policy luncheon, the new majority leader, Montana's Mike Mansfield, supported by his caucus, barred him because his presence would be a derogation of the Senate's autonomy?

Perhaps Palin's confusion about the office for which she is auditioning comes from listening to its current occupant. Dick Cheney, the foremost practitioner of this administration's constitutional carelessness in aggrandizing executive power, regularly attends the Senate Republicans' Tuesday luncheons. He has said jocularly that he is "a product" of the Senate, which pays his salary, and that he has no "official duties" in the executive branch. His situational constitutionalism has, however, led him to assert, when claiming exemption from a particular executive order, that he is a member of the legislative branch and, when seeking to shield certain of his deliberations from legislative inquiry, to say that he is a member of the executive branch.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:36 AM
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1. When George Will pretty much says the GOP deserves to lose, and takes a swipe at Cheney
you know that part has gone WAY far from actual conservative beliefs.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:54 AM
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6. It's the Wingnut Party now. n/t
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TheZug Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:37 AM
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2. I guess George Will is a "faux" conservative too.
Of course, if you actually read the article, Will slams McCain on conservative grounds.

But any way you look at it--GOBAMA!!!
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:39 AM
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3. Will's stock has gone up this election
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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:40 AM
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4. Is Will going to VOTE or Obama?
He couldn't be more scornful. This column could have been taken off HuffingtonPost.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 10:09 AM
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10. He strikes me as the kind of person who
would refrain from voting rather than cast a vote for a Democrat. I could be wrong.



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Two Sheds Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:40 AM
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5. dupe dupe dupe
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 09:41 AM by Two Sheds
dupe of Earl dupe dupe

sorry
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 09:55 AM
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7. haha...John the Careless....
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 10:04 AM
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8. Great Gatsby Careless
"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy — they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made…"
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 10:05 AM
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9. I think some of the "serious" GOPers are afraid of another GOP Presidency
I think they know that if McCain wins...and he and Palin screw up (like we know they will)...it will further tarnish their party beyond belief...hell they could turn the entire nation Blue...

Right now there are still folks who "believe" in the GOP...but 4+ more years of shit may just sour those folks

The best hope for the GOP is to sit out this race and try and figure out who they are...

For the Democrats the best thing they can do is work really hard to show average Americans that they can run goverment WELL...
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 10:16 AM
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11. I have to say...
...good for George Will for maintaining a consistent position on the money question. For so many years, the Republicans have argued that giving $$ by corporations, special interests, etc. must be allowed as part of our free speech protections. Now that the big giving is by hundreds of thousands of small donors, McCain is predictably calling foul -- after all, it's his ass on the line. But George Will is being consistent in pointing out that this giving is also protected by the free speech provisions in our Constitution.

Now I may not agree 100% with his interpretation of free speech vis a vis campaign donations. But it is so rare to see a Republican maintain consistency of position in such a case. So kudos to Will on that.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 10:29 AM
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12. George the Right On

Many times he is in another galaxy but every once in a while he strikes gold and the title John the Careless is the best moniker possible. Perfect.
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