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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:02 AM
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McCain volunteer Ashley Todd makes deal in fake assault case
PITTSBURGH - A McCain campaign volunteer accused of making up a story about being robbed and assaulted in Pittsburgh by a man who disliked her McCain bumper sticker will enter a program for first-time offenders.

Under the deal announced in court today, 20-year-old Ashley Todd will be released from jail and required to undergo mental health treatment. Her record eventually will be expunged as long as she goes to treatment, stays out of trouble and keeps authorities apprised of her whereabouts.

Todd, of College Station, Texas, has been jailed since Oct. 24, when police say she admitted making up a story about being robbed near a Pittsburgh bank and then assaulted a man who scraped a backward letter "B” into her cheek.

Todd, who was charged with making a false police report, did not have to enter a plea.

Police say Todd couldn’t explain why she invented the story.


Link: http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/2008/view/2008_10_30_McCain_volunteer_Ashley_Todd_makes_deal_in_fake_assault_case/srvc=home&position=recent
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:03 AM
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1. She's not a volunteer. She was paid by The RNC as an organizer for The College Republicans. n/t
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:27 AM
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15. Oh yeah, I know.
I was just quoting the title of the article. :hi:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:04 AM
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2. Shameful...
she should have been punished much more severely for inventing the "black" attacker, and for using the stunt to try to influence a Presidential election campaign.

Sid
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:18 AM
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IMO, that is a MENTAL issue and it looks like that has been dealt with on the deal.
Emotionally, I feel differently ~~ but in this case, I will put on my attorney hat and make the following comment: What the offense was is that she made a false police report. The fact that she wrongfully made up an alleged perp who happened to be a black man LEGALLY is not relevant to the crime charged. Makes it clear that she has some mental/emotional issues, but it does not make the underlying charge any different.


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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:28 AM
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16. But he didn't "just happen to be a Black man", he was imaginary. She made him Black, on purpose. n/t
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:33 AM
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19. True....
Edited on Thu Oct-30-08 11:34 AM by Hepburn
...but that does not change the elements of making a false report to law enforcement. The report is fase regardless of how the alleged perp is described. The essence of the crime in knowingly making a false report of a crime. That is all it takes and it does not matter as to having the charge correctly lie as to what she make up in regard to her false report ~~ the crime took place the minute she knowingly made the false report of a crime. She could have said it was a white woman who did this and the charge is the same.

BTW: I am not saying this is good or this is bad ~~ all I am doing as a long time atty is explaining how and why the results came out as they did.

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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:36 AM
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21. Understood. I'm reading your interpretation as such. But I would argue that this could be a hate
crime. A crime committed with the intent directed at a specific minority.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:27 PM
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28. Could be, but I would have to read the particular statute...
...to understand the elements of that crime in that particular jurisdiction. Some times on hate crime statutes, the conduct has to be directed toward a specific, identifiable person or group of persons which actually exists...not just a made-up person as Ashley did of a specific but identifiable, suspect class, i.e., "a black man." (By "suspect class," I mean that this is a class that could be discriminated against ~~ particular religious groups, ethnicity, race, age, gender, etc....not that black people are suspect. Thought I should explain before someone took what I wrote the wrong way!)

Emotionally, I feel like you do ~~ what she did was totally despicable. But...I understand how the criminal justice system is dealing with her particular actions. I can tell you, given the actual facts, that is about what I would expect. She did not received special treatment, IMO, one way or the other and that is how the system should work...but often does not.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:29 AM
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17. Now if only every college Repupublick would enter a mental health program...
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:33 AM
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20. Works for me! n/t
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:54 AM
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23. Understood, but I still wish the policital element could have been adressed...
I see her alleged attack was an attempt to unduly influence the voters during an election. I was hoping that there was some sort of violation of election laws that also could have come into play.

Cheers.

Sid
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 02:33 PM
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29. The proposed result of the crime ~~ to influence a national election ~~
would be very hard to prove up in this particular setting. It has to be conduct which is found beyond a reasonable doubt to have been done for that particular purpose. She could have just been a sick drama queen who has racist ideations...who knows. That is why what they charged seems to be totally appropriate under the circumstances ~~ false report to law enforcement. No matter what the intent on other matters, she clearly had the intent to make the false report.

All crimes consist of two basic elements ~~ a sufficient act and a sufficent "bad" mind set done at the same time. IMO, it would be a difficult prove-up on what she did to take it to the extent that she had a rational thought that what she did would throw a national election for McCain. Did she clearly have the bad intent on the false report? Yep, she admitted it! On the other? Waaaaaaaaaaay too speculative, IMO.

Cops and the criminal justice system ~~ and judges most of all ~~ LOVE to close cases and get them out of the system. Remember: The system runs for ITS own convenience.

:hi:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:04 AM
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3. One down, how many more 100,000s to go?
...required to undergo mental health treatment.

Perhaps the US needs to set aside a large area to house all the rabid-GOPers for "mental health treatment." How large is GitMo?
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:57 AM
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24. alaska is huge!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:03 PM
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25. True, and it might boost the cruise ship business...
"Take a cruise to Alaska and see the glaciers, caribou, and the last remnants of that bizarre breed: Neo-Conservative Republicans"

They could line up alone the beach as the ship passes, eyes half-shut and mouths agape with spittle on their chins, waiting for tourists to take their photos...

"Oh, look, dear! That one must be at least 195 pounds!"
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:09 AM
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4. In some sense, this "proves" being a die hard Republican is a mental condition..
I keed, I keed!
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:10 AM
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5. Time for McCain to demand a mandatory minimum sentence!
Oh wait.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:11 AM
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6. They BETTER not let her vote after what she did!! She should be in jail for at least a ;month!!
i can't believe John McCain isn't saying anything to denounce what his crazy followers are doing in his name!!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:13 AM
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7. At the very least, there's no way in Hell she should be out of jail before Wednesday.
Conviction or not, she's forfeited her right to vote, at least in THIS election, because she was deliberately trying to influence the outcome through fraud.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:15 AM
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8. Called DA's or Summary Probation in California ~~ Proceedings Suspended.
Basically, if the offender does everything required and breaks no law and gets in no trouble in one year, the case ends in proceedings dismissed. I would take a guess that this is pretty much what is going on in PA. Usual disposition on a first time offender for a non-violent act.

IMO, I cannot see any favoritism on how this case was dispo'd.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:17 AM
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9. What a joke! Well they can expunge her record, but I won't forget
and I suspect millions of others won't either.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:18 AM
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10. Well, I am glad that they finally found Conservatives to be mentally handicap.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:21 AM
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11. Oh she could EXPLAIN it alright
she just did not want to

there are many reasons she did this, all too embarrassing to admit
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:23 AM
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12. Yep, that's exactly what I think too.
She knows why, she just doesn't want to say why.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:26 AM
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14. Exactly. nt
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:25 AM
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13. Another republican role model
Commit a crime and get away with it.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:31 AM
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18. Free Ashley! She's one of the best players on our team.
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Epiales Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 11:44 AM
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22. Will she and Joe the Opportunist get a show on Faux News?
Plumb and Dumber
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:04 PM
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26. ashley todd was a PAID volunteer of the college
republicans. She got off too easy for her fucking crime.
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 12:06 PM
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27. Police say "Todd couldn’t explain why she invented the story."
Then she shouldn't be allowed any deal. As to the story, it was invented to help the faltering racist campaign of John McCain and Sarah Palin.
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