I have been noticing several threads as of late that say, you know, it's time to join hands and bring this country together.

I have two things to say to you.

1) This election is not over and those Damn Deibold machines can still flip this thing.

2) Have you not been in the same country that I have been in for the last eight years? Have you lost you're fucking minds.


Priceless wisdom can even come from Republicans every now and then. I am all for holding hands and such, but I have lived through 8 years of hell. Yes, I will forgive, but I am not going to be a dumb fuck.

As Ronald Reagan once said, "yes, Trust, but Verify."

If you don't learn your lessons hear, you are going to have to take the course over again.

Believe me now or later, but I know you are going to believe me.

I'm not ready to back down...

THOSE THREE WOMEN ARE TRUE AMERICAN HEROES!

2010 Republican US Senate Seat Target List (Subject to Change)

Alaska Lisa Murkowski
Arizona John McCain
Florida Mel Martinez
Georgia Johnny Isakson
Idaho Mike Crapo
Iowa Chuck Grassley
Kansas Sam Brownback Republican *retiring
Kentucky Jim Bunning
Louisiana David Vitter
Missouri Kit Bond
New Hampshire Judd Gregg
North Carolina Richard Burr
Ohio George Voinovich
Oklahoma Tom Coburn
Pennsylvania Arlen Specter
South Carolina Jim DeMint
South Dakota John Thune
Utah Robert Bennett

A Democrat, you say? What sort of Democrat votes to legalize waterboarding? I say we find someone to smack her around in the 2012 primary.

accomplished by arguing constantly instead of working for the good of the country. I'm hoping with a new prez the atmosphere will be different.
If we start out by spurning the rethugs, you can bet they'll continue to try to find obstacles to throw up as they've done the past 8 years.

...but the environment is about to become super polluted with more of the same republican attacks like those against B. Clinton.

IOW, the same obstacles they have thrown up for the last 8 years will be doubled.

Screw the bastids. They are a minority and the way they treat minorities must be revisited upon them if they are to ever change. They shall reap what they have sown.

Punished. Made to cry uncle!!

Democrats still have a lot of work to do in their own house IMHO... and one need look no farther than DU to see evidence of it.

Four years on DU and you bring this gem? :sarcasm: Scram shit disturber puppet.

And you are full of it sock puppet. Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere. Did your other self get a pizza recently? You are a mighty busy beaver today.

... yields short-term success.


Democrats success will live or die by their appeal to the center. So you can go on the offensive if you like... but it will mean 2012 will look like 2000 all over again.

Good luck with that.

Mark me words..If the Democrats are overly partisan..ALL the gains from this election WILL disappear by the next election.
Or have you forgotten ALREADY what happened when the Republicans tried to do this?

You are equating Dems with Repubs? How can you even put them in the same idea?

We are for equality. We are for the masses of people not just for the mass of crap at the financial top. There is no way we play by the same rules. But we must make them eat their crap they have dished out, otherwise they'll never learn. And we need them to learn, eh?

And if you think the propaganda won't happen no matter what, get ready for a surprise.

That's Pelosi-think. Enough of that.

But don't have too, all the ones I know have vowed to move out of the country when Obama wins. :evilgrin:

I have my eye on the cube of one of my "moving out of the country" co-workers...

Where are they gonna go? Canada? England? They think America is Socialist! Good luck finding a NeoConservative country that is more to their liking. Maybe China? North Korea?

No.

republicans were BIGOTS. :crazy:

I don't come to DU expecting to see REPUBLICANS promoted.

WHORES

WHORES

WHORES

WHORES

And then they need to grovel some more.

Oh, and I want my money back that went to this fucking rediculous war.

DESTROY REPUBLICANISM FOREVER.

What one positive---I REPEAT, WHAT ONE POSITIVE TENET does Republicanism offer American Society, American citizens?

NOT ONE DAMN THING.

This Party is about LOOTING. WAR. FASCISM. GRAFT. SECRECY. DESTRUCTION.

And above all---GREED.

Where's the pineapples?

the last 8 years.

maybe sand. Pineapples and sand.

...Republicants have fucked this country, spilled our blood and stolen our wealth. The latest plundering of our tax dollars to give to banks and insurance companies is proof positive that they should be kept away from the national checkbook for time immemorial and the meme that they have some kind of edge on national security should be drowned in an overflowing toilet.

No quarter say I, no reaching over the aisle, we have too much work to be done for such niceties.

but we need a concerted effort to stop the growing gap of two cultures in America as it is no good for either side.

We prosecute the republicans who destroyed this country, jail them and then we talk about moving forward.

This is America.

They either support President Obama or they're with the terrorists and should go live in Dubai with Cheney's money.

ask me when we're done then we'll see my mood.

forward and make progress does not imply "kissing and making up."

They trashed my country. I would sooner kiss a pig's ass then acknowledge a republican's right to breath oxygen...

I'll hug your elephant if you kiss my ass!

help us do that

This is the time to work. We will have the means and the mandate.

If anything, we need to dismantle the criminal machine, put a few criminals behind bars, find out why the fuck Pelosi has been carrying geOrges water, and kick lierMann so far out of the Democratic party that he will never find his way back.

Time to get ready for 2012.

Perfectly stated. Perfect.

And I won't be doing so either.

who only represent themselves and have little resemblance to people who are moderate republicans that I work with daily

Moderate republicans are not my enemies - the ones that are crooks and currently in office are. So I guess on this one I agree with Obama - there are republicans we can work with to get good things done

who have no interest in "...forgive and forget"....let's "...just move on...." or "...get over it..."


It's time for some payback in the form of investigations and criminal proceedings.

:mad:

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Probably most importantly because the other morning Joe the Scar implied that they have every intention of hounding Obama in office through his entire term, the same way that they did to Bill. Scar was saying that Obama's "associations" needs to be investigated once he takes office. Go to hell, Joe--and any other republican who plans on this type of warfare.

I'll take my cues from President Obama. Much to the disappointment of many here Obama is likely to work with Republicans and listen to them and that has nothing to do with "kiss and make nice". Good luck to all who think that a great Democratic victory will be a great opportunity for vengeance and vindictiveness because I am sure that Obama will disappoint in that respect.

I am not promoting revenge. What I am promoting is for people not to let their guards down. PERIOD.

We are dealing with extreme forces here that will not give up their power or hatred lightly. We are dealing with extreme religious nuts that claim Obama is a terrorist. We are dealing with hate mongers like Limbaug, Hannity, O'Reilly and Fixed news.

I wished we lived in a perfect world; but the fact of the matter is that we don't. It is what it is and we have to be prepared for it.

By all means, where we find common ground, lets unite. But when it comes to issues that are fundamental to the Democratic Party, such as Social and economic justice, there can be no compromise. The one thing that I have learned over the past eight years about Republicans on these important issues is this, WATCH OUT FOR THE SUCKER PUNCH.

Unite where we can, and always stick to our principles is the way I see forward.

I say decimate the lying hypocritical racist bastards and bury them for good.

As a matter of fact, I want to rub salt in their wounds come Wednesday. Make them suffer, collectively and individually, for what they have allowed to happen to this country.

Jim Webb was a republican. Lincoln Chafee is a republican. My Uncle John is a republican. I don't have to exclude all of any group, nor will I. Isn't that the problem?

but that we can't spurn the Republicans completely. The public won't like it, and we'll be shooting ourselves in the foot.
That's why it's good that DU doesn't dictate Dem strategy...we would never win elections.

have done over the last eight years and now we are reaping the problems brought on by that type of mentality.

our gains this year will be for naught.

whenever they need something ... I mean, at least it's not like the "scorched Earth" policy Dems had to face all these years ...

Om.
Get over it.
Om.

It never changes. Conservatism/corporatism has to be completely discredited, and this is the moment. If not now, when?

There is no compromise with that toxic propaganda. That's like a little bit of anthrax being acceptable.

As long as they push the same line, no. Hell no. If they want to apologize, change their tune, see the light? Then, trust but verify - and I'd add, always limit the amount of damage they are able to do anyway. Put perimeters on them (as in regulations).

Til then....CRUSH THEM like the Roaches they ARE!:rant:

i am not ready to be nice until they say what unethical assholes they are.

this isnt a game. it is time for their awakening and admit their wrong or they continue to be the .... yes.... enemy

Most republicans and democrats will agree on a lot of issues if you are able to remove the partisan bickering and the fighting over the credit. I'm tired of this 'us vs them' attitude, and we should try to move beyond that.

The Democrats have the power now, and it is in our advantage to unite the country instead of dividing it. I imagine some on the far right will try to attack us but we can marginalize them by reaching out to the moderate conservatives and independents. War should only be used as a last resort

Whether we win or not...those repubs who stood behind Obama will always have my gratitude.

life is too short.

it is not won - the most important thing is to build as big a mandate as possible.


Your second point - no kissing and no fighting - once we have power (see first point) civil negotiations and compromises can be considered, the bigger the mandate the fewer the compromises that will have to be considered.


There is no reason, having obtained power, to not be civil.

Why don't we ask the Dixie Chicks where they stand the make nice issue.

in SEIU Local 6, in negotiations, I can tell people that compromise is truly an art, and can be accomplished only through serious and tactful discussion. The more facts one has the better to press one's case. Ticking people off does little more than alienate them from your position, (think deLay and Lott). When WE have the power, we had better use it wisely, not foolishly like the R's have done in past.

While I am far from the neo-con position, I think that the better part of the R's, the fiscal responsibility aspect, is a good position. Unfortunately, that is no longer an aspect of the GOP.

In compromise, you realize you cannot get everything you want, but you work tirelessly to get the best deal possible for your people. It is in steps, as opposed to leaps. We must constantly move forward, and we can never allow neo-con policies to rise again, but we should have figured out long ago, that comprise is what politics is all about.

I'm willing to teach them how to govern.