Stop worrying about Pennsylvania!!! NOW!!!

Obama is ahead by around 12 points - the race is NOT "tightening".
Pennsylvania has NOT gone for a Republican on 20 years, and won't do it now.
Pennsylvania Democrats outnumber Republicans by a huge margin.
We do not have early voting, but we have many small precincts and will get it all done right on Tuesday.

The MSM have been saying Pennsylvania is in question in order to generate anxiety/excitement - they want to sell advertising, and don't care about anything else!

McCain thinks he has a chance to win PA, but then he thought Palin was a great choice for VP. Will you rely on his judgement?

Pennsylvania is a heavily Democratic state, and will vote solidly for Obama on Tuesday. STOP WORRYING! Just be sure to cast your vote for Obama and all Democrats running in this election, and we will wake up to a better day on Wednesday.

mark

At least they are motivating people to vote and not just consider it a "done deal" already. I'll give the MSM that much.

Keep the pressure on the voting public. Now is certainly not the time to feel too comfy.

America can't afford to lose this super person. The more we hear him speak the more convinced people become that he is the real deal. Something we haven't felt in a long time.

I do not really think that the machines will be rigged, but shame on the Bureau of elections in Harrisburg for pushing upon the counties the damn electronic machines which produce no paper trail. I went to the county commissioners meeting a few years ago and argued against the scrapping of the county's existing fool-proof paper ballot and optical scanner system. The two Republican commissioners stated that Harrisburg interpreted HAVA as mandating implementation of electronic machines across the state, even though none of the then-approved electronic machines produced a paper trail. In a neighboring county which has been traditionally Democratic, the 2004 electronic voting results showed a surprising undervote in the presidential contest, with Kerry taking Bush by only a slight margin.

there is a considerable effort to rationalize a McCain win in the media - and this has those of us who watched touchscreen machines shoved down our throats worried.

We already had our push-button ones. I miss the old hulky booths though. :rofl:

They no longer have Blackwell in Ohio to do their dirty business for them.

Rendell has made PA very stealable...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7574304

I Agree here...PA is steal-able

Thanks for the reality check

The recent polls show that it is a 4-7 point lead-
Rasmussen shows a 4 point lead.

I agree with you that registration is tilted heavy D but they need to come out and vote.
Bonus gate has hurt a horrible state democratic party but the ace is Obama built outside the party structure from the primary on. I think we will win but it will be much closer than double digits.That being said I will rejoice exceedingly if I am wrong.

Nevertheless the family here is doing work until Tuesday.

I can't stop worrying but then again I live in the T.

So while it is certainly good that Dems have a big advantage, they aren't all going to vote for Obama. Probably enough to make him win, but it will be tight.

being a factor. If that's what happens, that is disgusting!

even though there are more dems who are going to vote, many dems may vote for Obama because of the race issue....worried me about PA....remember folks, we never had a black nominee before and we don't know how things are going to break in the end...if Obama was white he would be running away with this thing!

in PA...he must have been a bad campaigner to lose....

including 90+% of blacks here, which as usual, blows repuke candidates away. But the point was that SOMEONE (and it wasn't blacks) voted for Swann despite his race. ;) And those same someones can vote for Obama if they want (e.g., alot of repukes who hate what has happened to their party).

He's not the sharpest pencil in the cup otherwise. I believe that's why he lost.

They are best ignored as imbeciles.

say that

yet, how come i just got an email from the campaign saying penn is close and they need callers?

and---just the other day, the ny times remarked, once again, how the youth vote is so fickle and tends to stay home

:thumbsup:

We've been stung before, It better not happen again or this old granny is on a bus to DC.
Note to Obama...just in case:

Never Concede! Any monkey business, challenge.......along with half of the country.

some folks here LIVE to be verklumpt.

Hand wringing is not going to help.

Hope I can cast my vote early in NJ and get out in time to meet the Obama caravan in Princeton.

We have a little bit of Dumbfuckistan right up our middle. Maybe not enough cause to worry, but enough to know, it ain't in the bag.

:applause:

I have been yelling this since they first started this nonsense about PA being a "swing state". This PA thing is the most ridiculous argument that the repukes and RW-biased M$M have put out to date. For some reason, the knuckleheads are still stuck back at the primaries and somehow think that the Democrats who voted for Hillary will now vote for McKKKlan. :eyes: They refuse to look at the past electoral maps going back to 1988 to see WHO and WHERE the Democrats are and how those large-population areas OVERWHELM the rest of the state's sparsely populated repuke counties. Over 1/3rd of the state's population is right here in the Philadelphia metro area alone.

If anyplace, Jersey would go repuke before PA as many repukes left here and moved there.

...and there's only 2 more days to stay hypervigilant.

Thanks for reassuring post.

Facts are facts. It's best to recognize them rather than dig your head in the sand.

Obama is ABOUT 7 pts ahead in PA, down from about 13 pts. last week. THAT is why Obama is going BACK to PA in the next two days.

Optimism - yes. Reality and facts - yes. Denial of a trend - let's not go there.

Poll Date Sample MoE Obama (D) McCain (R) Spread

RCP Average 10/26 - 11/01 -- -- 51.2 44.2 Obama +7.0

ARG 10/29 - 10/31 600 LV 4.0 51 45 Obama +6
Rasmussen 10/30 - 10/30 500 LV 4.5 51 47 Obama +4
Morning Call 10/28 - 11/01 615 LV 4.0 52 45 Obama +7
NBC/Mason-Dixon 10/27 - 10/28 625 LV 4.0 47 43 Obama +4
Marist 10/26 - 10/27 713 LV 4.0 55 41 Obama +14

I don't think so.

I use Realclearpolitics, which is an average of all polls without regard to how accurate a poll is or not. It's just an average. I think that shows a pretty good snapshot. It worked pretty well in the primaries...actually, it ended up showing Obama DOWN more than he actually was.

So I guess I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than unpleasantly surprised. But there's a downward trend, or Obama wouldn't be going back. A couple of days ago, going back to PA wasn't in the agenda.

while Republican States are turning blue.

impossible

it's denial to say what you are saying

just read the economist on my way home and it pointed out how there are areas of penn where blue collar dems could swing red

also got an email from the campaign saying penn is close and asking for phone volunteers to call penn

:sarcasm:

Thank God the Obama organiztion is better than the state Dem party.

Seriously, I've just seen 3 negative attack ads in a row here (two of them very new ones I only first saw today and yesterday). They're pushing hard for PA.

But for those who think that PA is a heavily democratic state, it's not. Republicans still stand a good chance in any statewide election here.

If Democrats actually TURN OUT at the polls during elections, the entire state hierarchy would be Democratic. Arlen Specter is only in office by the grace (or stupidity) of Philadelphia, which he heavily courts.

victory margin was very small. Obama is doing much better in the polls all over than either of them did, so I would expect Obama to win PA by a slightly larger margin than either of them did, but it's not a sure thing.

The Philly numbers are going to get reported last. So McCain is going to show a healthy lead for 2 hours on Tuesday night. Don't panic. The bigger the urban area, the later the numbers will arrive.

rural area polls, maybe with some good news for McCain, but the Dem votes will be there, just have a little patience.
It might help to watch the returns on MSNBC rather than CNN or Fox.


mark

signed up with the real wingnuts. Moderate Republicans still do well here but right wingers don't. Obama will win PA easily.

running mate for him?

the last few days here in PA. For exactly the reason you state, Palin rallied with the wing nuts. Those rallies were basically KKK parties. They lost the moderate Republicans in PA when they saw that.

log into the campaign website and sign up to make calls to Penn

the campaign says the race is tight in Penn and solicits volunteers to make calls

stop blogging and start calling

perfect!
McCain does not seem to be acquainted with "perfect".

There are 1.2 MILLION MORE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS in Pennsylvania than in 2004. They must vote, though. McCain is betting that they will not.

McCain pretty much must win PA to win the election, given the states he is losing now. He won't. To repeat, Pennsylvania, which sometimes does like to elect Republican Senators or Governors, has voted Democratic in every Presidential election in 20 years.

Be as nervous as you want - I don't want to deprive you of the pleasure of your neuroses, but PA WILL support Obama on Tuesday.


mark

bookmark !

Believe me, getting the fucking GOP out of office will be more than enough for me.

See ya Wednesday.

mark