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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:34 PM
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My wife just heard a robo-call; the voice of Hillary Clinton saying "McCain will bring
experience to the White House and Obama will bring a 2002 speech..." (W. PA)
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:38 PM
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1. Ha!
Now that's pathetic! !!!!! PUMA's Unite!!!!!! :rofl:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:38 PM
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2. That is beyond disgusting
I hope Hillary sues.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:42 PM
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3. It is really ugly; rpigs are trying everything.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:48 PM
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28. She can't. The fact is that statements made in political
campaigns are public domain. That's why campaigns cut and paste the words of others into their ads. Obama has it, where McCain proudly boasts about how often he voted with Bush.

That's why I was so unhappy with the way she ran her campaign. But all that's over with now. We just have to expect to hear her words used and manipulated by Repukes. It's part of the (dirty) game.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:43 PM
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4. Just received the same robo call 5 minutes ago
:grr:
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:43 PM
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5. Yeah, we just got that one, too.
From Obama we get a cheery volunteer wanting to know if we know where our polling place is. From McCain we get disgusting robo calls.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:44 PM
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6. I heard that on TV today.
I'm pretty sure that they pasted two separate comments together. That would be false advertising and sueable.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:44 PM
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7. Shame on Hillary for going there at all in the first place -- we knew this would happen.
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 06:46 PM by ClarkUSA
And she knew it too. She just didn't give a shit... everything she's doing now is trying to make up for the stupid shit she said during
the primary campaign.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:46 PM
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10. Yep.
It was so predictable.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:47 PM
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11. Oh please...............
She has nothing to "make up", it was the primary and that's what goes on in primaries.

:eyes:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:04 AM
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13. Of course you would say that...
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 10:09 AM by ClarkUSA
I'm sure McCainiacs and Palin lovers rationalize the campaign's ugly tactics and words in a similar way. :eyes:
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:08 AM
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14. If the situation were reversed
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 10:08 AM by Chorophyll
and Hillary had won the primary, some asshole in some swingstate would manage to cobble together a robocall out of something Obama said once, too.

Enough already. We're winning.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:14 AM
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15. That's ridiculous. You're trying to impose a false equivalency.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 10:20 AM by ClarkUSA
Obama never said anything half as objectionable as the crap that came out of Hillary during the primaries.
Go ahead, think of something. You won't come up with anything. Enough with the revisionist history. And
yes, the right candidate is winning... Americans know better than to endorse the same old slash-and-burn
Washington politics of the past.
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:53 PM
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16. Whatever. Personally, I didn't have a horse in the primary race.
Chances are I'd vote for any Democrat over any Republican any day. But at the end of the day they're all politicians and there are scumbags in all of their campaigns. I'll concede that Hillary's campaign had more objectionable content, though there was that one woman that Obama fired early on for comparing Hillary to Satan or Hitler or Sauron or something.

The primaries are long over, for which I'm grateful. Let's proceed to victory now.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:54 PM
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30. He fired someone who said she would "stoop to
anything..she's a monster".
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 03:08 PM
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34. Whatever.
I'm sorry this thread is even happening on a day like this. I'm not going to add to it further. Peace.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:59 PM
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17. Oh really
Obama directly, in his own words, with his own mouth, accused Bill of being racist, which might have come up. Obama, in his own words, with his own mouth, said Reagan was a more important and better President than Clinton, just to name two things which might have come up. I am sure now we will hear from Obama supporters that the primary is over, but you all brought it up first.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:01 PM
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18. Obama never said Bill Clinton was a racist. Give that meme up already.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:08 PM
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22. his campaign certainly did, and you know it, if you're honest.
Look, ANYBODY could parse a few phrases out of any politicians life an make something untrue seem evident. I bet we could make mccain and obama look like bossom buddies, but that doesn't mean...
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:14 PM
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24. Yes some Obama surrogates mentioned Clinton's race baiting statements, but you said Obama called Bil
Bill Clinton a racist. And I was point out you were wrong! On the contrary, Hillary did actually say those statements on Obama's experience, which McCain is using.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:12 PM
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23. he also didn't say that Reagan was a "more important and better" prez than Clinton
He said Reagan changed the trajectory more ... but, hey, who's counting? Oy.

It is clear some people choose to believe exaggerated and downright false versions of the truth to nurse their bruised feelings.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:30 PM
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26. He most certainly did say what I said he said
in his own book.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:38 PM
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27. Digging in your heels on your gross exaggerations isn't helping.
Edited on Mon Nov-03-08 01:41 PM by AtomicKitten
It also keeps you wallowing in your bitterness over the outcome of the primary and prevents you from moving on in.

Obama is making an argument about the readiness of the electorate for change, comparing today's desire for a new direction with the electorate's mood in 1980.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/obama_reagan_changed_direction_of_country_in_way_bill_clinton_didnt.php
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:58 PM
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31. Oh Fucking Bullshit as usual coming
from your whiny posts.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:58 PM
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32. that's nothing but a disgusting piece of shit lie. And of course, it comes from YOU
and naturally, you don't post a corroborating link for any of your vile lying ass shit.

You really are shameless. And shame on you for your disgusting lies.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 02:06 PM
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33. Absolutely, They all do it.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:16 AM
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12. Agrees there was no reason to use that language or to praise Fox
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:03 PM
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20. Oh yes. YOu're right. NEVER in ANY primary has ANY candidate attacked the other.
Have you been living in a cave or are you 19 years old?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:14 PM
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25. She ran against him like a Republican using wingnut epithets like "elitist."
And he's not a Muslim, as far as she knows.
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dontforgetpoland Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 06:58 PM
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8. I just got this robocall here in Western Pa.

I can't wait till McCain loses.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 11:45 PM
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9. I guess the campaigns think Obama has NJ in the bag,
Because I haven't gotten a single call from either party.

:(
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:02 PM
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19. Obama could have run robocalls with any number of McCains primary rivals.
That's what the primaries are about. Only the sleaziest and most desperate of candidates use that against an opponent. GHWB said the most vile things about Reagan in the primaries....
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:04 PM
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21. Can't she get a court order to stop them? Can they use her voice like that? n/t
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 01:49 PM
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29. Sure they can. Obama has McCain's voice in an ad.
It's fair game, whether "fair" or not.
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