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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:26 PM
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Are Lieberman, Kerry & Gephardt to Reveal a Last Ditch, Bold Plan to Win?
A shocking and unsubstantiated rumor is currently circulating within the states of Iowa and New Hampshire, home to the first two contests in the national Presidential race. What’s the scuttlebutt? Hold your breath, folks. Here’s what I am hearing:

In sober recognition of their sinking poll numbers, stalled campaign fundraising efforts and utter rejection by long-time political activists, Senators Joe Lieberman and John Kerry along with Congressman Dick Gephardt are seriously contemplating the bold, yet admittedly risky move of announcing that each of them will now join the “Democratic wing of the Democratic Party” that Howard Dean has long claimed to represent.

Now, it goes without saying that it would be radical step for any of these three Corporate, Washington Democrats who are all darlings of the DLC and its founder, Al From, to publicly admit that they have joined the “Democratic Wing” of the Party, but hey…it’s the political season and I guess anything is possible.

Also, in fairness to Kerry, Lieberman and Gephardt, let me be the first one to say that if these rumors are untrue and they, for any reason, should feel offended or outraged by the hint that they might now somehow reverse themselves and actually join the Democratic Wing of the Party --- which is anti-war, anti-Patriot Act and anti-corporate bailouts --- then I am truly sorry for suggesting the possibility.

So, my fellow DU’ers, what’s the dope? Could it be true, after all? Could Lieberman, Kerry and Gephardt be considering joining the “Democratic Wing” of our Party --- or is this just a slanderous rumor that someone would like to spread which would undermine their established record of supporting war, the Patriot Act and corporate bail outs?

What have you heard?




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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:32 PM
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1. Is this for real or just a shot at the corporate whores?
Just wondering. Not that I would mind if it is the latter.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:55 PM
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6. Me Sarcastic? Never.
;-)
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:35 PM
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2. I heard they have a nekkid picture of Dean and Saddam shaking hands
But it is an obvious Photoshop job! They digitally striped 'em, but you can still tell they just put Dean's head on Rumsfelds body. (eeewwwwwww!)

:)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:39 PM
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3. DZ. Can you back up your claim
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 04:43 PM by blm
That Gephardt and Kerry are corporatists? Kerry never accepted corporate pac money, wrote legislation that favored small business over corporations, and worked on the Kyoto Protocol for 10 years which corporations did not want implemented. Kerry and Gephardt also favored prolabor legislation over corporate, especially Gephardt.

Can you explain how Kerry maintained a liberal rating closest to Wellstone as a member of the DLC while Dean was DLC and stayed in the center and consistently pushed business deregulation in his state?

Can you explain how you concluded Gephardt is DLC when he never joined?

Can you explain why environmental groups would give Kerry their highest ratings if he was a corporatist as you claim?

Why would you spread memes that are demonstrably untrue?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:42 PM
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4. Gephardt is way more anti-corporate than Dean, the Nafta lover
Gephardt has led the fight against corporations while Dean was giving them everything they ever wanted. I hope Gephardt destroys Dean in Iowa.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 04:42 PM
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5. I'm verklempt at this revelation.
Discuss among yourselves while I ggo set the table for our canasta game... :eyes:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:03 PM
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7. they would have to choose a new majority whip and majority leader
as they will be leaving the appeaser wing bereft of leadership (an oxymoron I know!)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:29 PM
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9. Hmmmm.
Yes and thereby eliminate the "illusion of opposition", huh?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:03 PM
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8. It really upsets me
that lump Kerry in with Lieberman and Gephardt.

IWR aside, Kerry has the strongest liberal credentials of any candidate running, and you do him a disservice here.
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mydawgmax Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:29 PM
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10. Dean isn't one either.
Edited on Wed Jan-07-04 05:31 PM by mydawgmax
Members of the democratic wing of the democratic party also don't boast of NRA support, take a states rights approach to civil rights, or support regressive tax programs.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:34 PM
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12. If Kerry isn't one either, then he's a far cry closer than Dean to it
But the truth is Kerry's a bonafide Democrat from the democratic wing of the Democratic party.
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mydawgmax Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 06:13 PM
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13. Of course Kerry is one.
I should have said that. Kerry is much more an emodiment of the democratic wing of the democratic party.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 05:30 PM
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11. Like herding cats.
I would love to see someone try and 'otganize' that...LOL
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