Is This a Time for Gloating, or a Time for Healing???...

Do you want to rub Republican voters' noses in the mess their leaders made; or be realistic and see that many hard working Americans didn't have time to vet their news sources?

Isn't it hard to be politically aware when you're working 2 & 3 jobs?

This is absolutely a time for healing. If we rub their noses in their own mess they'll only be vindicated; our best course of action here is to emulate Barack and keep above the fray. By staying calm and dignified we annihilate all of their arguments regarding evil liberals, but if we gloat they only gain new stories to reinforce their warped concepts.

Beyond that, we absolutely have to bring this country together. A large part of that will be leading by example and showing hateful voters the error of their ways. As President-elect Obama has said time and time again, we are not a red America or a blue America, we are the United States of America.

Democrats/Independents/Obamacans must now end the politics of division - NOW (regardless of who started it).

At the end of the day, we are one country.

The fact is, the majority of wingers aren't going to give it a fair shot. There was nothing that could be said or done two days ago that would convince them otherwise, and nothing right now.

Gotta get TOUGH, fight back at the specious nonsense they are going to throw at BO, and get to work.

BOTTOM LINE is results. Whatever wingers might be open to it, are going to be persuaded by results, not words.

But there are a couple I will not let up on since they wouldn't let up for the last 8 years whenever I saw them.

Either there's healing or there isn't.

Lose a grudge or keep it (It's that simple).

Forget it. He thinks Tom DeLay was a "liberal" Of course he also thinks Bob Jones University is a "liberal" school.

....but I've been at some of the Hillary sites lately and it's looking unlikely..I was so excited last night when history was made but some of the PUMAs were still throwing their vitrol and insults. I think the Republicans however (the more moderate ones) will heal with us and get on board with this new era.

I just don't get it. :(

http://66.147.242.82/~hillary2/showthread.php?t=124

Those aren't "Hillary sites." Get lost as well.

I esp. want to give all the bigots out there whether you're a man, woman, a member of the repug party or the dems, young, old, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, black, white, Hispanic, and so forth the same blatant discrimination that you have shown towards gay Americans. If it were legally possible right now - I'd take every right you have away from you for an extended period of time.

And for all the good people of all walks of life who voted against anti-gay legislation and those who worked hard for to stop them, a huge thank you from me for doing so!!!!!

Realistically, I don't see this as a time for healing nor forgiving. I will leave the diplomacy to Obama and Biden and other politicians and public servants. I will get along with bush, McSame, and the Palin nutcase followers and anti-gay bigots in general with the minimal amount of co-operation as needed only because they are fellow Americans. Otherwise, they can stick it.

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- which involves running my life and putting my political priorities in order and acting on them. Something until this election I have let slide because I have no control over politics. But this election reminded me -- there are things I have no control over, but there are also things I do have a lot control over, such as looking at the past and doing something with it today and in the future.

I choose to acknowledge and embrace anger against the people who helped damage our country...and my rights. Anger is a natural and normal part of being people. It's what we do with that makes the difference. I will be putting my anger - and I'm a very angry person right now, into politics as much as possible.

Democrats. Washington will function on issues that can be mutually agreed upon, but
health care, social programs, ethical & social issues they'll fight us on indefinitely.
Just my humble opinion.

that is important to me:

Was it better that President Clinton and Senator Ted Kennedy worked for healing in Northern Ireland? Should President Obama try to be a peace-maker on the global stage?

Were the goals and tactics of Gandhi and King just?

I think so. I favor healing.

I've been listening to the "talking heads" on CNN discuss why McCain lost the election and they seem to miss the point which IMO is that Americans by and large are sick of "National Enquirer" style politics. We have serious issues to deal with far to serious for bash and smear tactics used by the McCain campaign. We need to stick to the "higher ground" that is what got us this far and we can not afford to stop here and go all Bush like because we control the Presidency and both houses, not get to full of ourselves or over confident.

Then we can move on to healing.

I'm not saying rub it in their face, but we've accomplished something huge, give us a chance to celebrate.

And it would do those Repubs good to learn some humility.

and if they can... they'll do to him what they did to Clinton

I'm personally absolutely CRAZY in love with some conservatives. I have huge respect for some republicans. I agree that many people are simply inaccurately informed... either through church, family, or the media.

I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the people that USED them to try to STOP us and have run this nation into the ground.

They get no quarter... not now, not later.

If the name "Hannah Arendt" is not instantly familiar, then you may have not been paying attention the last 8 years, and so may yourself have contributed to, in her most famous "sound-bite", the "banality of evil."

and I have no intention of gloating or rubbing her nose in anything. The blowhard idiots who post on places like Free Republic are a different matter entirely.

The monstrous little pukes don't believe they have a serious problem so you cannot heal them. Remember there are still really bad republicans in our great country's government if we ignore that problem we will not be in the position we need to be in for 2010.

The fifty state strategy is an aggressive strategy and being aggressive got America another chance to be all she can be.


Never forget, never underestimate, always be prepared and aggressively address the problem.

It's time to MOVEON....

This country is a mess. President Obama is going to have to do some very unpopular things in order to get it back on its feet. In order to do that he is going to have to get as many people behind him as possible. Obama supporters rubbing Republicans noses in their defeat will just make that all the more difficult.

Stay positive. Call for unity and let's get this country back on track.

On the other hand if someone gets ugly with me I am going to smack them down--that's just the way it is.

Gloating is certainly deserved, and hey, aren't we the party of justice? ;)

In the bigger picture, eventually, when the time is ripe, in the fullness of time... yes, we can work together with the more reasonable and moderate conservatives (i.e. all four of them).

But partying first.

Healing definitely..but first I gloat... :evilgrin:

and the rest of us will still be celebrating. Until we get a to do list.

This is most assuredly a time to be magnanimous, but not just because it is the big thing to do or will feel good for your soul.

We all know that the best thing about winning elections is a chance to make a difference in the course of our nation. Less appreciated however, is that the second best thing about winning, especially winning big, is watching the other party attack itself -- generally publicly. We see it happening already. We risk shortening this delightful period and focusing energy back on us if you gloat too much now. (At least publicly).

that is all.

I only will gloat on the inside...and keep my gloating to myself

They aren't useful right now. In so far as healing goes, until truth and reality become the national standard, any talk of healing is folly. We need to get to work to form a more perfect union.

When around the ignorant morons that I know voted for McCain I act quietly pleased. They say "you must be so happy" in an accusing way and I admit that yes, i am happy, because i think Barak will do the best job but i dont gloat. then i call a democratic friend sand we gloat together for an hour.

We have more important things to do.

I figure I owe it to myself to use the rest of election week to gloat and make pukes as miserable as possible. I'll take the highroad on Monday. :) ALTHOUGH...I was very magnanimous to a republican asshole the day after the election.

That's the first step. And these devils are not even considering it. So neither will I.

Healing is in theif (repukes) hands. We didn't fuck up the country and run a hateful election campaign- THEY did.

It's time to get all hands on board to fix the economic mess that is burdening the country.

Overreaching is always a danger and punishable in 2 years at the polls. Remember that the electorate that loves you today may hate you tomorrow.