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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:51 PM
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Do you believe President Obama will transform the view of many racists?
I do!

Not all - some ignorant fools are so locked into their hate or fear that they will refuse to let go of it.

Yet having a man of color as president is a game changer unknown before in our country's history. But far more than the color of his skin, is the heart of the man himself. Over time --- and it may take much of the first 4 years for some --- people with racist views will not see their stereotypes and fears fed, on the contrary, they will hear a principled, ethical, and balanced man with a genius for building consensus.

Barack Obama will not govern the way Shrub did - from the bully pulpit. Obama will invite and challenge us all to work together to build a better and more inclusive America. And yesterday I asked a McBush supporter with racist tendencies if he was at least open to listening to the man. That's all - just listen.

He said yes. Game changed. :think:



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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:53 PM
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1. well I know for one I'm changed. I can listen to rush and laugh my
ass off now. it's really therapeutic.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:55 PM
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2. That is my hope. It is also why, even though I wanted so much to have
a progressive in the WH I thought Obama's best chance was being a centrist. I think the Red half of the country can only take so much change at a time. *sigh*
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:55 PM
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3. No. But time will take care of them.
Of course, I'm in the thick red band that defines the South. What do I know.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:55 PM
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4. yes.
When the sky doesn't fall, when time passes and he hasn't turned Washington into Moscow ( :eyes: ), when the entire budget hasn't been transferred to those on welfare ( :eyes: seriously, some of these people are critically and chronically stupid), then they'll relax and enjoy the BENEFITS of a Democratic president and congress.
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orestes Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 02:56 PM
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5. I think for some of the
"I'm not a racist, but..." types of racists, sure, Obama can probably change things. But I doubt this will do much for the KKK and Aryan Brotherhood types.
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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:02 PM
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6. nope
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 03:04 PM by ratherunique
i have a hard time enough convincing people he's not muslim and asking them what the problem would be if he was. they find every little reason to justify their racism
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:05 PM
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7. Some. The truly ignorant will never be changed.
I'm going to say around 29% of the population will never change. We can only hope they do not pass things on to their kids.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:08 PM
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8. well I know for one I'm changed. I can listen to rush and laugh my
ass off now. it's really therapeutic.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:19 PM
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9. I think the problem might be this
That minorities and women have generally had to not only meet the bar set before them like everyone else, but usually exceed it in order to break the stereotype and move beyond the racist/sexist view that they only got their position because of some fabled "free pass."

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:24 PM
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10. I'm afraid not... it's too hard-wired in some people to have them change
I'm sure some may change their act, but I'd say that most will always have that poison in them.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:39 PM
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11. it will have a revolutionary psychological impact all over the entire world
Edited on Thu Nov-06-08 03:41 PM by Douglas Carpenter
Of course it will not completely eliminate racism or completely undo deeply entrenched ways of thinking.

In many, probably most third world countries, be they in Asia, Latin America or the Middle East - there are deeply entrenched beliefs that white skin is superior and dark skin is inferior. There is a deeply entrenched assumption that white skin represents educated and upper class and dark skin represents uneducated and lower class.

If one takes for example the Philippines, this attitude is held by almost everyone including the dark skin Filipinos who comprise at least 80% of the country. Suddenly the democratically elected leader of the most powerful empire in the history of the world is a black person. I have asked a number of Filipinos if this will effect this almost universally held way of thinking in Filipino society. They all agree that it will. Not that it will totally eliminate this deeply entrenched way of thinking; of course not. But it will effect it and will change or at the very least modify these attitudes.

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the effect of this election on racist assumptions is revolutionary across the entire globe.
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SweetieD Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:39 PM
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12. no
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 03:43 PM
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13. You can only change yourself.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:14 PM
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14. I agree.
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:18 PM
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15. A few, yes, but...........
You can't fix stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. Any Sarah Palin supporters, I hold out NO HOPE that they will EVER love black folks......especially if they are of the man gender of the human species. Those folks think with something below the belt, not with something above the ears.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:51 PM
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18. Maybe a very few, which is good, but mostly, no - they will find new
internal logic to justify their irrational hate and stupid ideas - just as there are people now who are turning mental cartwheels to justify their support of Palin ant her brand of politics.

There are many people who will go to any lengths to hate - they WILL pass this on through their children as if it were genetic.
I have seen it happen, and it is scarey and very sad.

mark
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Ozma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:53 PM
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19. I have to agree, sadly, with your assessment! nt
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:31 PM
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16. I believe he will change some - how many? = hard to say.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:31 PM
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17. Change comes from within.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 08:57 PM
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20. I think he probably already has transformed some.
For many people racism is just a form of ignorance. Depending upon where they live, there are a lot of white people who don't have much opportunity to actually know any people of color. I think that candidate Obama's exposure around the country as an obviously intelligent and qualified African American has very likely had an impact on people who have stereotypical views picked up from who-knows-where.
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happychatter Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 09:01 PM
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21. People change and smart Black leadership helps... I have PLENTY of Military experience to back it up
it's a fact
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