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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:31 AM
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SEVERAL questions I'm left with after this election!!
1. Why isn't Howard Dean going to continue as DNC chair? Does he want to do other things? Do other people want someone else? Is there a term limit?

2. Do we really need a diary/blog tracking Obama's every moment? (referring to the Politico44 thing) I am and ARDENT supporter of Obama for president with donations, calls, vote. But it seems a lot like "our great and fearless leader" to be doing a minute by minute on the guy. Hopefully people tire of this quickly.

3. What will this page be called other than General Discussion Presidential? Will it move back to General Discussion Politics? And then General Discussion will go more into a catch all mode?

4. Other than Obama, who do you think politically or otherwise gained the most from this election cycle? My vote is for Politico.com or fivethirtyeight.com
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:35 AM
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1. In answer to question 1, I believe Dean was not interested in serving another term
I have a friend who worked for Dean at DFA before he became DNC chair, and he said Dean has made it clear that he does not want another term as DNC chair. My friend said he wanted to go back to Vermont and hated living in DC, but apparently he wants HHS secretary, so maybe that's not the case.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:39 AM
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2. .
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:48 AM
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3. As for #4: I would add Real Clear Politics.com -nt
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:57 AM
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4. About politico44
I nodded my head in agreement when I read your opinion regarding politico44. However, after going over there and looking at it - it's basically an Obama Twitter-like Tracker. I flipped the arrows back to Thursday and Wednesday and found myself fascinated with how they even linked certain posts to relevant documents and video. So, my new thinking is this: politico44 could be the most comprehensive chronicle of an American presidency in history.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:13 AM
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5. If you look at the history of prior DNC Chairman....
It appears that most every person only served one term -- anywhere between 1 and 5 or so years..

Chairperson Term State<10>

Benjamin F. Hallett (1848-1852) Massachusetts
Robert Milligan McLane (1852-1856) Maryland
David Allen Smalley (1856-1860) Vermont
August Belmont (1860-1872) New York
Augustus Schell (1872-1876) New York
Abram Stevens Hewitt (1876-1877) New York
William H. Barnum (1877-1889) Connecticut
Calvin Stewart Brice (1889-1892) Ohio
William F. Harrity (1892-1896) Pennsylvania
James K. Jones (1896-1904) Arkansas
Thomas Taggart (1904-1908) Indiana
Norman E. Mack (1908-1912) New York
William F. McCombs (1912-1914) New York
Homer S. Cummings (1914-1916) Connecticut
Vance C. McCormick (1916-1919) Pennsylvania
George White (1920-1921) Ohio
Cordell Hull (1921-1924) Tennessee
Clem L. Shaver (1924-1928) West Virginia
John J. Raskob (1928-1932) New York
James A. Farley (1932-1940) New York
Edward J. Flynn (1940-1943) New York
Frank C. Walker (1943-1944) Pennsylvania
Robert E. Hannegan (1944-1947) Missouri
J. Howard McGrath (1947-1949) Rhode Island
William H. Boyle, Jr. (1949-1951) Missouri
Frank E. McKinney (1951-1952) Indiana
Stephen Mitchell (1952-1955) Illinois
Paul M. Butler (1955-1960) Indiana
Henry M. Jackson (1960-1961) Washington
John Moran Bailey (1961-1968) Connecticut
Lawrence F. O'Brien (1968-1969) Massachusetts
Fred R. Harris (1969-1970) Oklahoma
Lawrence F. O'Brien (1970-1972) Massachusetts
Jean Westwood (1972) Utah
Robert S. Strauss (1972-1977) Texas
Kenneth M. Curtis (1977-1978) Maine (now in Florida)<11>
John C. White (1978-1981) Texas
Charles T. Manatt (1981-1985) California
Paul G. Kirk, Jr. (1985-1989) Massachusetts
Ron Brown (1989-1993) New York
David Wilhelm (1993-1994) Ohio
Debra DeLee (1994-1995) Massachusetts
Christopher J. Dodd (1995-1997) Connecticut
Donald Fowler (1995-1997) South Carolina
Roy Romer1 (1997-1999) Colorado
Steven Grossman (1997-1999) Massachusetts
Edward G. Rendell1 (1999-2001) Pennsylvania
Joseph Andrew (1999-2001) Indiana
Terrence R. McAuliffe (2001-2005) Virginia
Howard Dean (2005-) Vermont


I have a feeling that there is something very special awaiting Dr. Dean in his future now that Obama will be our president ~~~~~



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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:19 PM
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8. thanks for the research. it is a grinding job....
and sometimes thankless. I hope Dean is a major part of Democratic leadership--hopefully in an Obama cabinet.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:55 AM
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6. Dean is smart to leave now
He served two terms which coincided with incredibly favorable situational advantage. His reputation is therefore beyond where it should be, and that's frozen in time if he departs now and allows someone else to inherit an unfavorable cycle like 2010, when the party in charge inevitably loses House seats.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:36 AM
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7. you've got a good point there. great timing.
I'd love to see him back in elective or appointed office.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:25 PM
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10. nope. he served one term as DNC chair.
And Dean wasn't some beneficiary of good luck, he created a viable party infrastructure and philosophy. His reputation is deserved. Furthermore, 2010 is again a bad year for Senate repukes. sorry.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:23 PM
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9. OK.
1) the DNC under a dem White House is about following the White House agenda. Dean's not into following political marching orders.

2) Sounds dumb.

3) Damned if I know.

4) dems in general.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:31 PM
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11. thanks for the input
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:33 PM
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12. General discussion: pres'nit
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