Said to my father by an acquaintance: "I went by the Democrat office Tues night and all the n***ers

were celebrating."

My father responded: "My daughter was there celebrating - as well, the entire world was celebrating that night." Dad said the man looked quite taken aback and quickly went on his way.

(BTW - there was about 8 African Americans out of the 40 or so people celebrating at the office that night.)

This man only knows my father through others, barely well enough to speak in passing when encountered at the hardware store. Yet he felt it was okay to say this.

Why is it that these ignorant bigots assume that all white people feel like they do? Why are they so comfortable spouting racists remarks to virtual strangers?

This kind of shit pisses me off!! :mad:

We live in a small very red town in North Carolina and are surrounded by idiots like this. I am so glad NC went blue.

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to him that white person might think different then he does.

I've heard the jokes, gotten the emails, and it all boils down to this: They'll either get over it or they won't. It doesn't matter. Fuck 'em. The best man won, and if they're too small to understand that then it's their loss.

I'm enjoying all these assholes eating crow. They've had it coming to them for some time now.

or slid into his coma.

He was extremely disturbed by it, too. He was slightly familiar with the man who made the slur and never dreamed that he would hear such a thing from that particular person. Thank goodness that this is not the norm for that area, but there are still plenty of bigots to go around this country.

Went to a funeral this morning, then to a restaurant with the family. After looking for my Mom in the banquet room, I found her sitting with 2 aunts, one uncle who were smoking, at the bar. I said hi and was talking to my uncle but was being severely distracted by what his wife was saying. Vile, racist, right-wing talking points. They were all agreeing with her, including my own mother. I smiled and said "You know, go ahead and keep hating and being miserable, but I can't listen to it." I left, but not before mocking them with "OHHHH, Obama's a SECRET MUSLIM, he gonna turn us all into gay socialists!!!" My aunt actually said that was true. After I left, my Mom called me and said "Where are you, we saved a seat for you." I told her how disappointed I was and that I felt sorry for them. Damn, I missed a great lunch at my favorite Lebanese restaurant.

You'll enjoy it so much more next time, with more open minded company! ;)

My husband works with a couple of men who were openly against Obama because he's black. My husband responded to their nasty comments with an old Dennis Miller favorite, "It's stupid to hate someone for the color of their skin. If you spend just five minutes talking to them, you will find plenty of valid reasons to hate them." It shut them up for a few days, anyway.

You were right to call them out on this. Anytime any of us hears this kind of talk, we must speak out & let these people know that this kind of thinking is not acceptable. It won't change them, but we must make them know that racisim is not acceptable.

That's pretty funny.

I'm sorry about your family, though.

The owner caters all of our family events. My family is huge. The deceased was the last of my father's uncles out of 15 siblings on his mother's side. My mouthy aunt had just left church, and being a religious fundie Catholic, she got all Christ-like and bore false witness. The image of her I will take to my grave is one of a bitter old woman, cigarette intact, spewing vile filth.

That's a tough one!

Vile things, things I wouldn't even repeat here.

Then she was asked to work in a fabric store in a mixed neighbrohood. She wanted a job more than she wanted to be unemployed, so she took the job. She actually had face time with African Americans, and she ended up reversing her opinions of them. Totally reversing her opinions.

So that can be something that happens. It is never too late for someone to change. Often what looks like hatred is just a lack of "knowing" and once the "knowing" happens things can change.

Christmas is at this woman's home every year. I cannot change their minds by arguing with them. They have the 'internets'. I want to confront her about this, not about her political bent, but about her fear and hatred. I want to tell her I'm ashamed of her. I want to ask if she teaches her grandkids to think like this. This is a woman who loved bush solely because he claimed to be evangelical (she loves Palin, too). I think she's a lost cause, but I want to turn her religious fervor against her and tell her she needs to get on her knees and pray for forgiveness. It might make her think twice about spouting off in public.

others. If they were at ease with their racism, they wouldn't feel the need for the validation of others all the time.

sitting together and bitching.

just as we were realizing that we were going to have more than enough electoral votes, a woman sitting next to me said "I just hope he's fair to the white people". This was an active Democrat! :grr:

during a break in my morning classes. A group of us were having a discussion on who we were voting for. I of course said I supported Obama 100%. My friend (more like a fair-weather friend) said, "Yeah, he's okay, but I just hope he doesn't turn the country black." WTF does that even mean?? It pissed me off so much that I just quit engaging in the conversation. And this is from a person who I'm fairly sure isn't even registered to vote, and who has a "bestest buddy" who told me to get a life because I enjoy politics! OMG!! :banghead:

they would realize that a majority of the country doesn't think like them or possess their small minded mean-spiritedness. And surprise surprise, a lot of white people don't think like them! Otherwise their candidate wouldn't have not only lost, but gotten his ass kicked.

I've been white all my life but if celebrating the election result makes one a "n**er" I am one.

I can guarantee it would neither be pretty nor polite.

They can not help themselves. Even in the world of business, when it's only white people, the bigots will reveal themselves.

It's a compulsion.

Thus, to them, the racists, you must also be a racist, because after all, how can any white person in the South actually like "That One" ?

celebration for me as Obama winning the presidency! Fortunately I work in Chapel Hill and absolutely LOVE it. I only come home to my county to eat and sleep. I have been so proud of hubby during this campaign. He has to interact w/the public, and you are absolutely CORRECT when another white person walks up and starts trying to trash Obama or the Blacks (who are called something else). My husband stopped them dead in their tracks and told them that we are Obama supporters and volunteers.

I have the same problem w/family members. I haven't talked to ANYone in my family this week - my aunt called me today and wanted to know why she hadn't heard from me. I told her: "Everyone knows I am a democract, and I know my family are republicans. I wasn't about to call anyone after the election to be accused of gloating, which I would never do." And then I had to listen to her explain all over again why she voted for McCain. We did keep it civil enough for me to make a few points about McCain and Palin, and surprisingly she agreed!

I also told her that I didn't realize how uptight I had been until Wednesday morning when I awoke and was at peace for the first time in MONTHS. Of course, there was dead silence on her end of the line. I also said, "If I had to put into words what this election means, it would be this: the WORLD rejoices!"

THEN, I talked to an uncle who lives farther down east in the state who was so proud of himself for putting a racist relative in her place with THIS: "Well, if Obama wins, that tells me that the people of this country had rather put a N***er in the White House than another Republican." :wow: I literally almost dropped the phone, and I truly was at a loss for words, mainly because he was SERIOUS and does not consider himself to be racist! I had a split second to decide to call him on this, and I chose not to--not just then. But in my heart, I know that we have to have a conversation, because a sin of OMISSION is as wrong as a sin of COMMISSION in my book. I cannot let that comment go without gently talking to him.

VERY sorry indeed; luckily I have never heard it much, probably because once I peg a racist I don't stick around to hear anything they have to say

It is mind-numbing and mind-boggling! It goes both ways: they can use the "N" word but in the context they use it they don't consider it racist. OR, they can omit the "N" word but make implications; and because they DIDN'T use the "N" word, they are not racist. It drives me crazy!

I had an uncle who'd use that word but I made him stop - at least he stopped around me - I just can't tolerate such sheer ugliness

There is a woman at work whom I've only met once before and with whom I only have to come into contact with every 2 weeks. Yesterday she told me about a friend of hers who told her young son that "Barack Obama was a bad word" and also how she (this woman) cried all day Tuesday. I looked at her and said very pointedly "why would you do that?" She fumbled around for some words and couldn't really come up with anything other than "well, I'm glad the election is over."

Of course when I told her how about the mccain/palin infighting--now "the election is over", she thought I was lying and refused to even entertain the notion. Surely her beloved pair couldn't be arguing or anything less than perfect :eyes:

I took my mother, and we both had our hair done (i.e., dyed). The woman in the chair next to me was someone my mother has known since childhood. From her conversation with her stylist, I learned she thinks Obama is a terrorist, he's going to take all our money, and that the McCains "look more like the First Couple should." We all know what that's code for. I didn't feel like getting into it with her, partly because I wanted to hear what she had to say -- it was sort of like a reality TV show for me -- and partly because I knew I couldn't change this woman's mind. Mom had told her I work for the local paper and that my specialty is headlines. She asked me, smirking, thinking that I agreed with her, if I'd written Wednesday morning's. I told her no, that I was working on something else and that it really was more of a headline by committee. She said she didn't remember what it was, so I told her with a big smile, "America makes history." "Well, I don't read much," she said. No kidding. When I told Mom later -- she's 75 and also voted for Obama, and cried all through his acceptance speech -- she replied, "I'm not surprised. She's never had an original thought." Yes, Tennessee went to McCain, but some of us voted on the side of history.

And NC is the northernmost SOUTHERN state. I LOVE it. Not going to church this a.m. though. It will be the first 'gathering' since the election, and I just don't want to take the chance that I am going to hear a lot of clucking and "May God have mercy on our nation" or "God, help us." My response: "HE DID." Other than that, I would get up and walk out.

Ppl are already posting about 'taking back' our symbols. For me, that includes the church. Christian Democrats have allowed the RW nutjobs to take over the churches, and it's time to take the church back to what it was intended to be. Barack Obama's philosophies seem to me to follow the teachings of Christ, and probably those of other faiths.

We need to take back our place in the church. Christian Democrats tend to emphasize helping those less fortunate instead of condemnation. That is the main difference in philosophy to me. My mother grew up in a strict Southern Baptist Church (she's now Methodist) and remembers hearing preaching about hell and the end times as a child. It scared her half to death. She said she thought it meant she was going to die.

Even though Tennessee went red, I know volunteers from East Tennessee, where I live, were bused to North Carolina last weekend to help, so I'm proud of that.

Please tell your friends that an old hippie chick in NC said Thanks!

Okay, don't jump on me for being at a Walmart. I didn't want to be there, but I live in a small town with few shopping options, and needed a cheap tarp in a hurry. Anyway, the store had been remodeled since I'd last been in, and I couldn't find them. I saw a large, burly man in sporting goods (the salesclerk), talking to another man in hunting gear. I walked up to ask about the tarps. They were having a very loud, very angry conversation about how, in 2 years, when Congress is up again, they're voting the f**kers out, that no-damn-body's taking THEIR guns, etc., etc. Standing at the sporting goods counter, waiting to be assisted, and being ignored, was a black man.

I assumed my best Scarlett O'Hara smile, sashayed up to them, and purred, "Excuse me?" Both men straightened, sucked in their large guts, and grinned. "Yes, ma'am," the clerk smiled. "Gentlemen," I said seductively, "I hate to interrupt your bashing of our next president, whom most Americans voted for . . ." I paused for effect "including MYSELF, but can you direct me to the tarps? Or shall I call the manager?" My smile vanished like the Arctic ice shelves. The clerk gulped, stammered, then muttered, "Um, yes ma'am", then turned to the black man, "I'll be right back, sir". I followed him to the tarps, where I smiled at him again, acidly, "Just for your information, some of us Democrats have guns, too. And we're crack shots. Thanks for your help."

I work at large university in Durham, NC. I was away from the office on Wednesday, so I missed the angry rantings of the republicans on my floor. They apparently took offense at the celebrations of Obama supporters, and reported them to HR. However, I did get a list of the repugs in my midst, and afterward, when any of them slithered over to talk to me (and they obviously presumed I was one of them--after all, I'm white, so I MUST be a repug, no?), I had great sport raving about how happy I was, how Tuesday night was the end of an 8 year nightmare, and we had taken our country back from the idiots, the religious fanatics, the brain-dead morons.

But make no mistake--these pustules ain't going away. They've been rebuffed, defeated, marginalized, and I'm afraid that will just make them angrier, meaner, more determined to get even.

politics at work on Wednesday, regardless of the outcome. So, we celebrated in small groups behind closed doors. In honor of the occasion, I bought the CUTEST little white polar bear with a long red satin stocking cap and who is positioned in a sitting position. When you press his paw, he starts wiggling his butt and moves in slow circles to the tune of the Isley Brothers singing SHOUT!

It was a huge success. HUGH, I tell ya!!11!

Duke?

I am a graduate of UNC-CH!

:hi:

Duke is Puke
Wake is fake
but the team I hate
Is NC State


Didn't Duke number Nixon among its graduates?

:rofl:

:hi:

and in one, two, three years time (who knows, maybe you can make it an annual pilgrimage?) you can go back in there, walk up to this guy and say, Did Obama take your guns away yet? Priceless.

And thanks for the post...very informative. And so happy that you and other NCians voted on the right side of history!

i had an elderly wm (i'm a middle aged ww) ask me on the train last wednesday morning if "my man" had won, probably thinking i'd voted mcLame. i gave him a big grin and a thumbs up! he appeared to deflate in front of me, lol. i asked him if his man won and he gave me some kind of strange response like "25%", which basically told me nothing. he didn't really need to tho, i got the picture. the train was very quiet that morning too!

to me ... just cause I'm white they "think" I'll go along with it!!!!! :wtf: :mad: :grr: :nuke:

And the way your father handled it is the way it needs to be handled - by not letting it pass, by letting them know it is unacceptable.

It outrages me when people assume I am as bigoted as they are just because I am white. :grr:

"Please don't assume I share your prejudices"
(a young woman came in and ordered 50 of them)

I was so proud of her.
BTW I'm in NC as well.

these months of forbearance in the interests of not reflecting badly on their candidates (McCain and Palin), the more racist elements of the vast Caucasian Republican majority can use their favorite words once again.