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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:53 PM
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Who would YOU replace Reid and Pelosi with?
I really don't have a good idea about who in the house could manage things well. Anyone? Be reasonable. Don't just say Kucinich because you like his policy stances.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:54 PM
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1. Sanders and Kucinich
Nothing less will do. :sarcasm:
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:00 PM
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4. lol
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:00 PM
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5. i'd go for that!!!!
not sarcasm...
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Versailles Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:39 PM
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35. Dang!
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 04:40 PM by Versailles
I didn't even get past the first reply and someone already had my answer (snarky or not!)! I'd love to see those two take charge!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:57 PM
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2. Clinton would be good as Madame Speaker.
She'd push hard for universal health care.

She would not have been as reluctant to pursue impeachment because Bush-Cheney were the clearest case of high crimes and misdemeanors this country has ever seen.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:02 PM
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9. She would have to be elected to the House to be Speaker
But if she were in the House, I would agree with you.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:07 PM
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14. Whoops !! Majority Leader !! I'd like Boxer for Speaker then
but I guess she'd be too liberal.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:09 PM
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17. Boxer is a senator as well.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:13 PM
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23. Whoops again !! Conyers or Waxman or Wexler or Schakowsky
I realized it is harder for me to pick a congressperson because I like Waxman and Conyers but they're busy doing their jobs as is.

And we hope Jan Schakowsky will take over Obama's seat.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:17 PM
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38. Actually, Hillary could be Speaker.
"The Constitution says the president and vice president must be natural-born citizens and at least 35 years old, but it is silent on the speaker. Theoretically, the speaker does not need to be a member of the House, but all of them have been."

Los Angeles Times

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/05/nation/na-speakerq&a5
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:25 PM
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40. what are you talkinga bout?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:26 PM
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42. Read the whole thread.
My post is an answer to #9. One does not have to be a member of the U.S. House of Representatives to serve as Speaker of the House.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 03:59 PM
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3. OK, as long as we're playing fantasy Congress
I'd replace Reid with Boxer and Pelosi with Waxman.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:01 PM
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6. I'd do the same
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:01 PM
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7. A speaker from Beverly Hills....interesting. And Boxer, another Californian
I actually love Barbara Boxer.
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:44 PM
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43. I think Barbara Boxer is actually a New Yorker
who moved here. (A lot like me, although I originally hail from New England) I think that's what makes her so tough.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:16 PM
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24. That sounds great. //eom
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:02 PM
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8. Impeachment proceedings and the table she took them off of.
I think that the table would do an excellent job of doing the people's will.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:03 PM
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10. What's wrong with Kucinich?
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 04:04 PM by Cleita
He's a real road warrior for the right legislation and causes. He is also a good manager and as smart as any Barack Obama. I know that he would be inclusive also of really reaching across the aisle for compromise not just rolling over for what they want. No one gives him any credence because he looks like an elf. Too bad Bernie Sanders is an independent because he would be my Senate Majority Leader choice. My second choice would be my Senator Barbara Boxer who really deserves a lot of credit for being a really good Senator.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:04 PM
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11. what is his legislative history that shows he can coutnt votes
and actually get bills in congress through with a unified party? It is a VERY tough management task. That is why Steny Hoyer is probably a much better choice in his role than Murtha.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:07 PM
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15. He got his impeachment bill through the House with enough votes but
Nancy Pelosi won't bring it to the floor.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:07 PM
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13. Other than the fact that he has no political allies and has shown absolutely
no ability to work with anyone else to get legislation passed, I can't think of anything...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:11 PM
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20. So it's his fault that many of the bills he sponsors and do get passed in the
house by votes, end up in committee, where the Chairman of those committees and Nancy Pelosi refuse to let them be heard? It's his fault? Or maybe we need a change in the leadership of both houses. Remember, we the majority of the people want universal health care and an end to the Iraqi war. Both are positions that Dennis backs. Yet, we keep throwing money at the war and the health care we do have like Medicare and Medicaid is being cut back.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:17 PM
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25. Yes, it is. It is entirely his fault that he is unable to convince anyone in the House
to help him force legislation through the sausage factory--and all the more so if he cannot do so despite there being an electoral advantage to people working with him. Congress is not a place where righteousness equals success; it is a place where diplomacy, dealing, and arm-twisting are used to wring success out of the morass. Dennis has shown no ability to succeed in Congress. I appreciate his vote, but since he's shown no ability to get anything accomplished, why do you think that would change by promoting him to an even harder job?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:34 PM
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32. If he can't convince anyone in the House why does he get votes enough
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 04:34 PM by Cleita
on his bills to go to committee where they stagnate because those committees are already in the pockets of the lobbyists? I guess corruption suits you.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:36 PM
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33. If he can't convince anyone in the committees, what makes you think he'd do so as Speaker?
Also, most of his bills don't make it to committee anyway, but that's beside the point.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:39 PM
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36. Because if he were Speaker those bills would be heard by committee, not
just be there because he would have that power that Nancy Pelosi now has to squash anything the Washington lobbyists she is beholden too don't like.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:17 PM
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26. yes, that would be his fault. he's a politician in a group of politicians
that's what you do in the House if you want to be more than one vote for your district.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:19 PM
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27. I would like Kucinich but I think he's perceived as more liberal than Boxer
Edited on Sat Nov-08-08 04:19 PM by Overseas
and his colleagues might not cooperate.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:22 PM
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31. So after years of conservatism, shouldn't we have some liberalism
to undo the damage done by conservatives? I don't find either Dennis or Barbara to be stoned out hippies, which people try to paint them as. Both are lawyers who speak to the common people and understand their problems. We have had no voice since here since Kennedy. We are the throw away people increasingly ruled by Patricians who don't give a crap about the least of us.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 05:33 PM
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39. I would love it. It would be great for our country.
Let's hope the Obama administration can just show everyone the logic behind progressive legislation.

It makes economic and ecological sense.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:05 PM
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12. Hillary Clinton and Barney Frank. nt
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:08 PM
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16. Reid with Durban and Pelosi with Israel
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:09 PM
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18. Dodd or Feingold for Senate; not sure about House. nt
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:10 PM
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19. Feingold & Kucinich
eom
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:11 PM
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21. Chuck Schumer (NY) and Marcia Kaptur (OH-9). nt
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:12 PM
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22. Nobody
I have not approved of everything they have done. However, politics is not usually such a tidy business. They have to balance a bunch of realities, not the least of which is an intransigent President.

While I certainly wouldn't mind seeing other in those positions, I'm happy to give them a chance to move forward a solid Democratic agenda under a President with an IQ in the triple digits.

If the crazy right feels such animosity towards these two, that is a good enough endorsement for me.

I say give them a year under Obama.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:20 PM
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29. that's kind of my point in the original post.
No, they may not have satisfied the fire breathing extreme liberal wing of the party, but they got minimum wage passed. they have start on other good legislation. Let's see what they can get done with Obama and an increased majority.

If they don't get a lot done in this first year I will be calling for their heads. Incidentally, probably so will Rahm and company.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:20 PM
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28. Clinton in the Senate, Wasserman-Schultz in the House.
:)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:21 PM
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30. I'm with Marsala - Sanders & Kucinich
Hands down.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:37 PM
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34. Why replace either, especially now? We need them.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 04:40 PM
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37. I want the leadership to not be in the hip pockets of Washington lobbyists
for a change, like our present ones are. We do need real change as promised.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 07:26 PM
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41. Boxer and Kucinich (nt)
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carnie_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:51 PM
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44. Agreed
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:02 PM
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45. Schumer in the Senate, and as for the House....
I actually don't have that much of a problem with Pelosi.....

But Reid is absolutely spineless. He needs to move on.
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Nathancummings Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:04 PM
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46. I would let them govern
They have not had a chance to govern with a healthy majority. Let\'s wait and see how they\'ll be have after January 20.
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