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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:15 AM
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Question: After the last 10 years why should ANYONE think the GOP will be cooperative on ANYTHING?!?
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 11:19 AM by uponit7771
My impression on why the GOP would NOT be cooperative in moving in the direction America should be moving in on issues like health care and energy and civil rights is their attitudes have remained the SAME in the face of becoming unneeded for the time. They think their ideals of economics STILL work overall even after hearing their true "free market" trickle down proponent, Greenspan, admit there's a "flaw" in those theories AND after seeing Americans overwhelmingly reject their fundie nutness by rejecting the flag officer of the social conservative ideals in Sarah Palin (Yes, fundie nutjobs are LESS intelligent than Palin ask me how I know).

How have the attitudes of republicans divisiveness and wrong hardheadedness in regards of their ideals suggested that they wont be the same partisan hacks that can't govern for the middle class to save their lives.

Thank you in advance for your input.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:16 AM
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1. I've posted this elsewhere...
but this is just a little glimpse of who they will be dealing with. Rahm Emmanuel was the inspiration for this character, though he is a bit more intense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1VEcG0cShM
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:23 AM
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6. You know, I avoided watching the West Wing because I thought at one time the smart people would...
...NEVER be back in control.

I have some catching up to do

If that is the view of Emmanuel I'm happy, he'll hold steady to what Obama wants
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:18 AM
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2. Maybe the response of the electorate against rethugs
might cause them to rethink their divisiveness. It's obviously not working, people showed their disgust. Also, they are definitely the minority party now. What they do or don't say or do won't matter so much.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:20 AM
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3. I think there will be some moderate repubs who will work together
but I think there will be some who's main goal will be obstructionism. I do home we get a few moderate repubs working with us, it will leave the hard right conservatives even farther in the dust.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:21 AM
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4. No one expects cooperation, but the politicians have to say it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:23 AM
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5. Two reasons. Americans don't like the Republican brand at all.
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 11:28 AM by tridim
And last night on Fox News the Beltway Boys pleaded with their viewers to knock off the wall-to-wall Clinton-type bashing and let Obama do his job. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't heard it myself.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:25 AM
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8.  I know they say that know but THOSE two will be piling on as SOON as they get the chance or see
...that Obama's in trouble (AKA isn't 123234324& perfect)
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:24 AM
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7. The Dems need to reach across the isle,
I am really tired of hearing this. I wish that our leaders would reframe this to say " We hope that the Republicans will work with us to fix what's wrong with this country." Put the responsibility on the pukes.

We've tried to work with them and they spit in our faces. They will be obstructionists and the world needs to know just who is holding up the reforms that everyone hungers for.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:26 AM
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9. EXACTLY!!!! Their ideals are admittedly broken, it's them who need to reach out their hands and...
...McKlan did NOTHING to help froward their image
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:28 AM
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10. 10? more like 28 years
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:28 AM
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12. 28? more like 40 years.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:34 AM
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18. I guess it did have its start at Nixon , you are right
Although we did have Carter for 4 years, he was sabotaged by every means available and also had to try to clean up the economy shifting from Vietnam war driven to other divers.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:38 AM
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20. Yeah, I saw Sicko for the first time and see the same attitude in Nixon that I do now in reThug
...policies; short sightedness and lack of thinking of the middle class directly.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:33 AM
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17. I was tryin to be nice to em, they've been "petty and malicuous" (Kristols words) for a
...long time now
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:28 AM
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11. No
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 11:29 AM by Warren Stupidity
Silly question, one would think. Half of DU seems convinced that we can work with these snakes in good faith. The Obama administration has to work with them, but hopefully they are fully aware that their every effort will be to sabotage and destroy anything and everything they can. See 1992.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:35 AM
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19. Yes, and their attitudes have NOT changed. I just learned Joe the Plumer was on welfare!!
and even down to the grass roots folks their ideals DON'T WORK for the middle class but they cling to them in the face of conflicting evidences
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:29 AM
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13. They should not ..unless they are suckers. n/t
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:30 AM
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14. There's a good chance they won't
However, I see it like using diplomatic channels as the first effort at resolving a global conflict - like those high-level meetings without preconditions that Obama talks about. It costs us nothing to talk to them first and find out if we can work together, and lets us know what, if any, common ground we have together as a starting point.

If they're willing to compromise and work together on issues in a way that won't undermine the basic goals of any legislation we're trying to pass, then they can join in. If not, then we have the votes to do it without them.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:40 AM
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21. Cool !!! Thank you, that's a good logical and pragmatic approach to the GOP right now.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:31 AM
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15. There are a few who KNOW BETTER
and who have potential to dial back some of the lunatic fringe rhetoric - this generally being in the Senate, where there will be a requirement to get them over to our side to break filibusters by the lunatics in there. People like Hatch, Specter, Lugar, Domenici, Alexander, Hutchison, and Snowe. Except for Hatch, the rest of these folks are also sitting in states that have gone completely blue, are deep purple heading to blue, or are pink heading for purple, and it behooves them to follow the trend of their constituents.

I'm not worried so much about the House because the potential is now there to have Rahm reign in the Blue Dogs if necessary (crossing fingers on that).

We'll see what happens with the couple outstanding seats still out there - i.e., MN & GA. Am hoping we can somehow squeak at least one of those in.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:32 AM
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16. The tone at the top has changed.
Bush and Cheney will be gone at long last. The hateful and devisive tone permeated our country from the top down. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and the Savage Weiner will still be on the air, but as the unifying tone of Obama's campaign takes hold in Washington, their voices will continue to lose sway.

The truth is, Americans long for reconciliation. If those left in power from the GOP do not understand this, they will face another overwhelming loss in 2010. I am certain of this. Obstructionism in Washington is passe.

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:56 AM
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22. Well - the one "good" thing is - we will all be able to see how an OPPOSITION PARTY operates
And it will be in abject contrast to the way Nancy and Harry have operated...

Nancy and Harry have GOT to GO!!!
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