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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:31 PM
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I am going crazy
I'm sure that I am just one of millions having to put up with the same thing. I live in a very conservative suburb of Buffalo, NY that voted heavily for McCain. A good deal of my conservative "friends" stopped talking to me months ago with the knowledge that I was campaigning for Barack. However now that the election has been won I have been bombarded with nasty racist emails and text messages from these "friends", not even considering the people that I have to see everyday as neighbors and co-workers that feel the need to add on to the pile.

incredibly dumb things I have been told in the last week(excluding incredibly nasty racist jokes that no one else needs to here)

-Barack is raising his own private "citizens army" that will rival the actual military in size and strength.
-Barack will tax all fire arms and ammunition sales by 500% so kill off all gun ownership.
-Barack will try to reverse the 25th ammendment so that he can serve for decades as president.


Anyway I so want to be a gracious winner, but it is getting harder by the day when I am constantly being confronted by jerks. Any Advice on how to deal with these things?
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:32 PM
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1. What is his personal army going to use if he's banning guns?
:shrug:
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:34 PM
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3. We will mow down the masses with our sex appeal. NT
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:34 PM
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2. I'd put their e-mail on spam filter.
And after their messages bounce back, they'll get it.... maybe.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:34 PM
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4. Ask them to cite
one example of anything that Obama has said or written to give them that opinion. Just one.

Expect silence.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:35 PM
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5. You have to let them know if any "friendship" is going to remain,
they need to stop the racist bullshit and give our President a chance to lead. If that doesn't work ask them "why do you hate America?".
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:35 PM
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6. Tell them if they have a problem with President Obama, they should move to another
country. Furthermore, if they keep up with their treasonous smears about the President Elect of the United States, that you will forward their info to the CIA, and they might end up in GITMO or with tapped phone lines. :shrug:

In other words, they are not worth educating. If they don't get it by now, they never will. So just have fun :)
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:37 PM
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7. AMERICA!21 LOVE IT UR LEVE IT!!1
Tell them that.
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chyjo Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:44 PM
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12. To put things in perspective
in 2004 I campaigned for Edwards in the primary and then obviously Kerry in the General Election. After it was over a lot of these people were fairly gracious winners, always talking about how Kerry was a great candidate and such. Its just shocking to see them act like such jackasses after losing. I'm too young to remember how Bill Clinton was treated after he won in 1992 but I have heard the stories. It sounds like the same thing all over again.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:48 PM
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15. I'm originally from the Buffalo area
so I know the people. My real advice - let it all slide. A year from now they will feel silly for having those thoughts. Or be funny and send them a bouquet of arugula and sign the card Comrade Chyjo.

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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:50 PM
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19. The RW was horrible to Bill Clinton
And it started on the very first day. The very first press conference, he made the mistake of calling on Brit Hume for the first question. After Brit spewed out some horrid question, Clinton snapped at him and said something about "I guess I'm not going to get any sort of honeymoon<" or words to that effect. And it was on. And for eight long years, they never let up. And the worst of it is, they just made shit up. Read "Blinded By The Right" by David Brock (now head of Media Matters) to get the whole story.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:39 PM
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8. Tell them "Great ideas, email them to Obama."
Do remember that many on this site posted about the concentration camps being built by Haliburton for the liberals when Bush declared martial law. Same category of BS.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:42 PM
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9. Same crap we heard with Clinton.
Not the racist stuff, of course, but I saw printed pamphlets explaining how Clinton was going to invite the Belgian Army into the US, and they would use writings on the backs of stopsigns for directions on how to take over the nation. They were even stockpiling Russian tanks in Saucier, MS, about two miles from where I grew up.

It was laughable, until April 19, 1995, when Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building in Oklahoma City, because he believed all that crap. McVeigh even went to Saucier and climbed the fence where the tanks were kept to check it out. What he found is what any local could have told him--the tanks in question were old relics, completely inoperable. But he believed enough of the rest of it to slaughter 168 innocent people.

I'm expecting the same reaction to Obama, although I'm hoping to hell our law enforcement system will stop it this time. :(
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:42 PM
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10. We have just lived thru the worst 8 years this country
has ever had and now that we are almost thru with these filthy pricks
how could anyone fear Barack and his administration???
You need to get some new friends and stay away from these freaks
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:49 AM
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33. I second that-
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:44 PM
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11. Tell them "You were WRONG about Bush being a good President and you'll be WRONG
about Obama being a bad one."

They've already proven themselves to be bad at picking Presidents or knowing what the hell they are talking about.

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:45 PM
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13. im a line cook and baker
im a biker and a scruffy angry old biker/hippie type
i look very scary but i dont even own a slingshot anymore
its just long hair and a silly mustache and the angry looking face the gods hung on my skull
im really very nice and well read
i make pies and cookies for gods sake
and am at this time extremely non violent
tonight my chef came to me quietly and asked me if i would attend a gun collectors show with him
he wants to buy all he can now without leaving a legal trace
florida allows collectors to sell guns with out delay or background checks
he thinks the end of the world is coming
he cited what you listed as realities
i explained i had been on the obama email list for over a year
had donated time money and shoe leather for obama
and asked why i was not invited to the private army
im a good soldier
i dont think i made a dent much but i will continue to tell the truth and hope it suffices
the level of fear among white people (i am kind of white if you saw me you would say "him,hes white" ...its complicated )over this election of obama is startlling
the fear it is drawing
and people i thought i knew are saying crazy racist stuff

very red county im in too btw
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:47 PM
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14. In Chicago the racists went nuts when Harold Washington won as mayor. By his second term
he won many of them over. Now people are going ABSOLUTELY nuts in the opposite direction with love for Obama. I really haven't heard much about hate here. So give them time. They might grow once they get to know Obama and see positive results.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:48 PM
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16. I've come to the conclusion a huge majority of repukes are truly mentally deranged
I mean, WTF?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:39 PM
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17. Sheesh find some new friends.
Surely these people were idiots before this campaign started. You shoulda dumped them months ago.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:49 PM
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18. Say, "What are you, nuts? I think you forgot to take your reality pill this morning."
Include an industrial-strength eyeroll.

It probably won't help, but it'll make you feel better.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:53 PM
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20. be nice --
after they get their tax cut
and they still have their guns, they will come around. We want them to vote for him in 2012.

i would just say...hmmm, I hadn't heard that. I'll check on that. Where did you hear that? They will tell you and you can just say...hmm.
but say it sort of dry, but not too sarcastic....but just a little.


BUT
if you are never going to see them again...
say: hey, isn't it great that Bush increased the power of the executive branch? Those liberal signing statements should be fun! }(
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:55 PM
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21. just cut them out of your life as much as possible. You don't need to associate yourself with
delusional idiots such as these.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:59 PM
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24. Best advice so far. Plus, your blood pressure will decrease....
...which is another positive.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:56 PM
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22. You might start off by telling these morons to at least use the right amendment
in their scare tactic nonsense.

It's the TWENTY-SECOND amendment that limits terms NOT the 25th.

:rofl:
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:59 PM
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23. Yeah, I'd stick with the "Geeze, are you serious?" tone
let them know that they are being rash and sort of crazy. There's no basis in reality that you know of for these beliefs, and if they can't point to any, then why do they believe this? You can let them know that you are disappointed in them, as you expected them to be more informed and have their opinions based in reality. There are too many places for them to get real information; there's no excuse for this kind of break with reality other than a willing decision to rely on emotion rather than reason.

stay distantly, mildly pleasant and ask them, "Hey, are you OK? I mean, the things you are saying just don't make sense. If you ever need to talk, call me, but only if you're ready to be reasonable. Take care."

BTW, I'm sorry you have to deal with this.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:06 AM
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25. Do they mean the 22nd Ammendment? The 25th is about order of succession.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:18 AM
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26. Tell 'em to fuck right off.
I live in Texas, I know what it's like. Who needs that shit? Anyone sending you hateful shit gets booted right out of your life.

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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:35 AM
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27. Sign all their emails up for gay porn
Seriously, if they won't respect your requests to not spam you then this is probably the best hint you can give them that's a bit silly and funny at the same time. Although I guess it's a bit immature. :-P
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:57 AM
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28. Always carry a piece of steak and throw it their way that will distract them for a while.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:07 AM
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29. Avoid people who vex the soul.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:07 AM
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30. Avoid people who vex the soul.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:11 AM
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31. How about telling them the truth? Say that these remark are upsetting you, especially the ones
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 03:11 AM by No Elephants
about race. Anyone who continues after that is not your friend. Maybe never was. So, cut them off. If you can't cut them off because they are co-workers, say, "I've asked you to refrain from making these comments to me beause they are upsetting to me. Since you seem eager to upset me, let's just stick to business, shall we?"
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:43 AM
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32. Go to fightthesmears.com. Google for "Joel's Army" and Sarah Palin...
... then hit them with that garbage. So much of what they say is projection. All of these accusations are about the far-right, not the left.

If you ever feel the need to refute any particular point, you can go to fightthesmears.com, which has information on the most common emails that spread lies about Obama. Snopes.com is also a good source for debunking stuff.

I'm sorry you don't have a good core group of friends to rejoice with just now. That's got to be tough.

Hekate


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