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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:00 AM
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Schools not allowing students to mention Obama
PUCKETT, MS (WLBT) - More complaints from parents who say school officials will not allow students to talk about President-Elect Barack Obama.

Melissa Hayes says teachers at Puckett Attendance Center told her daughters they could not talk about Obama in class or in the hallways.

Her daughters, 15 and 18, told Hayes the principal says students can only mention Obama in history class Hayes says she called the school district to find out why, but did not receive any answers.

WLBT was unable to reach a school official this afternoon.

http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=9317315&nav=2CSf
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:01 AM
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1. this also happened in Georgia on Friday
at Covington Middle School.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:05 AM
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7. What's their rationale?
School administrations must have some defense besides, 'We're all Republicans and you can't talk about Obama because he's a Democrat.'
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:09 AM
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11. The father of one of the students said he and his wife will meet with
the principal today to find out why.

And get THIS: I talked with a coworker about 30 minutes ago. She has an 8 year old daughter who goes to Christian Private School.

One of the kids (a white boy) burst out in tears, crying his heart out the day after the election, saying that "McCain lost and he hates all black people".

Wonder where he got that, huh?

Several parents (black AND white) have called and emailed the school (my coworker included) their complaints and demanded that the child's parents come in for a discussion.

In the meantime, the kid has been ostracized and the other kids avoid him like the plague.
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Sorceress Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:01 PM
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29. "In the meantime, the kid has been ostracized and the other kids avoid him like the plague."
^^^OK, that is the best part of the story!!! :rofl:
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CatBO Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:34 PM
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37. Is it in Georgia?
Mount Carmel school, by any chance? I wouldn't be surprised.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:27 PM
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41. He's a Democrat,
yet I don't believe they would have the same problem if HRC was the President Elect.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:23 PM
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72. Probably involves thousand year old scrolls, beezlebub,
and the rapture. Just a guess. lol.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:38 PM
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26. Wow. Right here in my own back yard. I'm so proud.
:sarcasm:

The psychotic rednecks aren't taking it well around these here parts, especially since Obama won Newton County and we elected our first black sheriff!

Woot!!! :woohoo: :bounce: :toast: :headbang: :applause: :patriot: :woohoo: :bounce: :toast: :headbang: :applause: :patriot: :woohoo: :bounce: :toast: :headbang: :applause: :patriot: :woohoo: :bounce: :toast: :headbang: :applause: :patriot:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA mofo's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess they can just...what was it they told us...GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:hi:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:50 PM
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54. Almost a week after the election....
and here in Texas-you can still tell by looking at the long faces who some of these folks voted for. These folks are unreasonable in their hate because they are full of fear. As big and chest thumping tough as they want to persuade you they are, they are about to piss their pants. They know how they would respond if they were treated as a minority, they are afraid of the shoe being on the other foot. But that is not the way it is, there are some folks rules by their higher natures.

I am so happy to see us put the sad chapter of the civil way behind us and clean this blemish from our country. Barack represents a new start-and that can be scary for some folks.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:02 AM
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2. That's outrageous!
Public schools have sure turned into oppressive prison camps in the 25 years since I was in them.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:23 AM
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75. No, no, no! You guys have it all wrong....
You see, the children are benefiting from a new "immersion" program designed to teach them about racism and oppression. Once they have completed the course, they will have a greater understanding of how NOT to be.

I believe it was part of Bush's No Child Left Behind program.

:sarcasm:
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:02 AM
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3. Ridiculous ...

That's ridiculous. As long as they aren't interrupting class or school functions, their right to free speech should not be abridged.

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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:02 AM
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4. He's our fucking President-Elect!
We don't want students talking about our President? That's ridiculous!

:mad:
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:02 PM
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23. <fingers in ears> la-la-la---we can't hear you......la-la-la, la-la-la....... n/t
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 12:04 PM by ladywnch
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:27 PM
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48. *snarf*
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:00 PM
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57. actually I was thinking of Nicole Sullivan's 'Vancomb Lady' character from Mad TV,
but this works too!! LMAO
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:20 PM
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34. Do you think that if McCain had won there would be any ban
on referring to him or to Caribou Barbie? I sincerely doubt it.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:02 AM
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5. What a surprise? Southern Schools. When will these people realize
this is another century
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:04 AM
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6. If this has also been the policy with George W. Bush for the past 8 years
then Fine.. and show proof.

If not, ever fucking one of the administrators at this school should be fired. Today.

What could possibly be the "educational" reason for not allowing students to discuss the new president elect?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:44 AM
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17. Perfect response.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:06 PM
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31. The "Weekly Reader" should be out with a full story this week
Wonder what will happen to these clowns then, the Weekly Reader goes to schools all over the nation.

I was an administrator for many years and this is outrageous!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:44 PM
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43. I'm sure that issue of the Weekly Reader
would, um, fail to be delivered that week. Or ever again, if they keet mentioning Obama.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:42 PM
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60. Didn't the Weeky Reader vote for President and Obama won?

It was one of the top NEWS for schools.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:38 PM
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39. Uh, no, it will NOT have been "fine"; it will have been INCREDIBLY ILLEGAL THEN, too.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:31 PM
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74. That's exactly what I was thinking...
Why do they hate amerikkka?!?!

We've finally got our country back - now I damand respect for THE PRESIDENT!!!

Wasn't that their fucking cry all these fucking years?!?!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:05 AM
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8. That is insane.
We don't live in the Soviet Union.

Schools should be encouraging dialog right now, not suppressing it.
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:05 AM
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9. Because that's what school is for, right?
To discourage interest in current events, to discourage interest in the political system, etc. :sarcasm:

Seriously, what is wrong with these people? Do they think that if they ignore Obama, he'll disappear? I don't even understand the logic, here.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:06 AM
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10. Unbelievable...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:14 AM
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12. What the fuck king of backward shit is that?
We had to let the schools talk about bu$h. He will be the President of the United States. If they don't like they can get the fuck out.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:12 PM
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70.  .tihs drawkcab eht si ippississiM
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:35 AM
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13. Way to highlight that the Deep South isn't as ignorant and racist as we libs try to make it out as .
Way to go, Jackson Mississippi! Way to shoot down the stereotypes!

:sarcasm:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:25 PM
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47. Hey, it wasn't Jackson, it was Puckett and Pearl
Puckett is out in the sticks and Pearl is on the redneck side of Jackson.

Bake
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:37 AM
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14. Now, let me get this straight...Obama is going to take our rights away, correct?
They are just a few weeks early in enacting Obama's wishes. :sarcasm:

Just sayin'.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:39 AM
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15. This must be fought at every turn. I'm sick of schools oppressing their students like this.
Absolutely fucking ridiculous.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:41 AM
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16. maybe Obama should visit these schools and set the record straight.....ha!
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:46 AM
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18. I think a lot of people are saying bad things about Obama
It is the South, you know. I say let the heat from the elections die down because right now it's impossible to have a civil discussion about politics with a right-winged southerner.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:44 PM
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40. WTH??!!! Oh, TOO EFFING BAD for "the South"!! It's the U.S. CONSTITUTION in charge now.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 05:09 PM
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56. It's not "the South." It's stupid people.
I live in the South and everyone here is talking about PEO.

Geesch.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:48 PM
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67. Geesch, yourself. I was QUOTING the post to which I was responding.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:47 AM
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19. Typical Republican reaction to news they don't want to hear.
I bet they can discuss local politix about "good Republican" reps.

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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:48 AM
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20. What is an attendance center? Is this some sort of detention or other
correctional facility?
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ratherunique Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:48 AM
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21. republicans need a xanax package plan
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:52 AM
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22. That's gonna TRULY backfire on them. When those kids can vote, they are going
to vote for Obama if they can vote in 2012 and they will vote Democratic when they turn 18.

This lame attempt to silence will only make the kids think more counter to their "schools".
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:39 PM
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65. Yep, it's gonna make Obama even cooler in kids eyes.
Just like rock n roll, pot, booze, etc. Forbidden fruit is the most delicious of them all.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:31 PM
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24. That is Un-american!
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 12:31 PM by Juniperx
When I was a kid, we were encouraged to discuss our presidents... before, during AND after elections.

These so-called educators need knocked down a few pegs. I find this disgusting and very disturbing.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:34 PM
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25. Here's the school web site:
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:32 PM
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36. And here is the page with the faculty's email addresses
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:55 PM
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27. Discourage children from being involved in civics?
Now that's progressive!! I'm sure this is exactly what the founding fathers had in mind. :sarcasm:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:57 PM
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28. You'd think a school would understand child psychology
or adult psychology, for that matter.

Whatever you do, don't think about elephants.
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:02 PM
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30. So kids can't mention the name of the man who's about to be sworn in as the fuckin' PRESIDENT..
of their country? Unbelievable. :grr: Then again, Repukes were never much for reality outside of their own..
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:14 PM
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32. yes, we elected Barack Obama to the presidency . . . but . . .
about a third of this nation is still dumb as a sack of rocks . . . and it seems that Obama's election has lowered their IQs even more . . .
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:14 PM
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33. And to think, during eight years of Bush, my kid had to do
no fewer than THREE reports on Bush for THREE different teachers. Sheesh.

And now some kids can't even say Obama? WTFever. They should all be WRITING REPORTS on his fabulousness.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:26 PM
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35. this is dangerous for the school and the district
district officials should read the tinker vs. des moines decision
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:36 PM
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38. the fact that kids in school are even discussing anything not related to reality tv or sports
is something to be celebrated, not banished.

But then again, it is Mississippi, which is like, what 49th, 50th in terms of eductation. Not hard to see why.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:39 PM
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42. O My.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 02:40 PM by NOLALady
The town is named after a black man.

"The town's actual early founding is tied to Joshua R. Burnham (born 1845). He started the first post office there and an effort was made to name the town Burnham. The government denied the request, some attribute to because he fought in the Civil War. As alternate names were being debated, a black man by the name of Puckett was walking down the road at the time. They submitted Puckett, and it was accepted. From a search of existing records, there is/never was a nearby town named Tishamingo."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckett,_Mississippi

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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:46 PM
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44. We had an after school rally for him at our school after the election.
I'm very, very proud of my school.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 02:49 PM
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45. These parents should simply advise their children to speak Obama's name as much
as they want to and anywhere they want.

Let the school discipline them or expel them and then the parents can sue the living shit out of them.

I seriously cannot believe that I am even reading these reports. It defies all logic and just goes to show the mental feebleness of bigotry...it simply defies reason.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:11 PM
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46. All of us need to E-Mail them...
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 03:32 PM by longship
...and tell them about how screwed up they are.

This story needs major media news coverage.

Somebody e-mail Keith about it.

on edit: Recommended and :kick:ed.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:34 PM
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49. It is Mississippi, you know. Shouldn't come as a surprise.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:40 PM
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50. Wait. Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong perspective.
Could it be.. in the heart of republican country that kids are not allowed to discuss Obama because it's causing some nasty racist shit and arguments at school?

NOT defending this in the least -- but it's one thing if I believed that the majority of kids would be discussing Obama with admiration down there in Georgia, it's quite another if it's causing discipline problems because of taunting and name-calling.

I'll be curious to see what the details are, and their rationale (which I suspect has more to do with disruption than not wanting to hear his name.) After reading some of the shit on a knitting site I visit, by the SORE losers who support McCain, I have no doubt that this is to spare the school from some ugly racist shit.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:47 PM
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52. If that were the case would the proper and more logical thing to do be
to punish the idiots saying the racist shit rather than forbidding children from saying Obama's name?

There is no good way to spin this.

Regards
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:50 PM
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53. That was my first reaction. Particularly since we had a post last week about that.

There was a post on here last week about all the racism being directed at Obama, and how the principal told the teachers and staff they were to step on that everytime they heard it.

If you squash that then have Obama supporters gloating, you would eventually end up with this sort of policy: no talking about it PERIOD.


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erinlough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:47 PM
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51. The secretary at my school is a republican
she asked me if I believed teachers should wear political buttons to school. I answered honestly that at our level it could be difficult for children so I don't do it. She really surprised me when she replied that she wished COLLEGE professors would follow that rule because her daughter, at college, is being indoctrinated by her liberal college professors. I completely lost it. I told her that was what, IMO college is for..I reminded her that her 20 year old daughter is an adult. She snapped back that they are still impressionable and their parents were the only people who should influence their beliefs. I laughed at her, really did she think she still has that much influence on a 20 year old? I asked her how it worked if she demanded something from her daughter she didn't want to do. She turned away. Later she confessed her daughter was voting for Obama and would cancel her vote out and she blamed the college professors for that. I find parents in their mid 40's to be slightly overprotective and controlling of their children anyway and especially this woman.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 04:51 PM
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55. Here's a theory from someone in the comments section
"The school wants to avoid the possibility of violence (fights) between the students who may view the election results differently...just as a man was arrested in Philly for wearing a McCain t-shirt to an Obama vitory (sic) rally last weekend..

Kids often look for a reason to cause a ruckus. It is a fact of life. The time will come, when the emotions settle down and acceptance of the election results are reflected in the public.. and these kids.. that intelligent conversation can prevail. These educators seem to me to just be implementing a stop-gap measure for the children's safety from each other."



O noes! Say Obama's name; get a backwards B scratched on your cheek! :eyes:
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:44 PM
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66. What a bunch of BS
I've seen plenty of hard feelings between Bushite and anti-Bush kids.
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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:26 PM
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58. It is happening in PIttsburgh!!
my kids are in High school and there is a lot of tension. The kids who supported McCain't are fit to be tied and the teachers are saying"we are not talking about the election we are talking about u.v. rays"
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:29 PM
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59. Not in CT.
I love my state (except the Lieberman thing of course). :D
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:57 PM
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61. Probably because the principal doesn't believe in a black man being president
Except he doesn't call him a black man...
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:05 PM
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62. maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away... -nt
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Teacher in SC Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:21 PM
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63. Do you remember how you felt after Kerry's defeat?
And that was between two white men. It is very painful to be on the losing side, and knowing how easily some of these kids, especially at the high school level, are loose cannons to begin with, I'd say we ought to give some benefit of the doubt to people making that decision. At first, when I saw it was Mississippi I figured it was purely racist, but remembering how "cheated" I felt 4 years ago gives me the sense that others will have similar emotions. We won; let's not go looking for rednecks under every bed. They are there, but Barack will win over many of them. If not, maybe they'll get to feel what we have felt for 8 years!
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:32 PM
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64. Sue them
Hire a lawyer and sue their dumbasses.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:56 PM
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68. word of the day: ACLU. nt
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:04 PM
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69. Sounds like there may have been some fights.
But if so, that is still no reason to squelch free speech.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:14 PM
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71. Wow, what bastards.
I would mention his name and I would do it often and I would wear a wire to record it. Let them dare to expel them. Shame on them. It isn't going to change the outcome. There will be President Obama so you damn will better get use to it. Tell your kids to standup and be counted. It is your right. My husband, dad and father-in-law fought in the military for your rights. Now use them.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:21 PM
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73. I'd be sure my kid knew beyond a shadow of a doubt
that I would back them all the way to the Supreme Court and for them to speak as their conscience dictates.

No, I won't give the schools any benefit of a doubt here. If their is drama then the adults need to deal with it and use it as a learning tool about our form of government. If they aren't up to that task then I see little reason that they be certified to educate our children at all.
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