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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:39 PM Original message |
Fifty State Strategy likely over. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Is it Obama's decision to lay off the field staff? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It is Obama's DNC now. Has been since he became nominee. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Which means he gets to put his own people in charge |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Of course. I was not posting about Dean's leaving. I was posting about a legacy |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. They will probably continue it with their own hires |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe the actual program is officially over |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
93. He wouldn't have won without the strategy--of course he believes in it. |
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PFunk (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I hope so. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, the GOP is talking about forming their own 50 state plan |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. They're not needed. The next election is 2 years away |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. These people were hired almost 4 years ago |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Who says it wasn't broke? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. "Too many female challengers in House races?" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. No, that was disproven, was not true. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. Excuse you, I am a female candidate who does not appreciate being told I am hurting the party. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. Best money the DNC ever spent... |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. That's my view. too. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good comment from Paul Rosenberg at OL. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I don't think anyone really understands what is happening yet |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Extremely Stupid and Disapointing. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The Obama campaign and the DNC are not the same |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. They are the same. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. Obama has a massive organization of his own |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. Oh PULEAZE! Obama's not going to shut down this strategy. He's going to OWN IT. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Facts: They are laying off all the staffers. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You are right; the dream is dead |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. but also.... |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The DNC is out of money at the money; Dean can't set up budget prioritie for his succesor |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Here are a few more facts for you... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. FACT: DUers Love To Whip Themselves Into A Panic |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. DUers are getting too complacent.... |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. "Intelligent stuff"...? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yeah. Ok. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. I love Obama, but it concerns me how quickly this happened. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Tell your "professional" friend to hold on for a millisecond. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
94. Like Rahm heroically fought against NAFTA, WELFARE REFORM AND THE IWR? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. What were these staff members supposed to do for the next 2-4 years??? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. The plan was to do what the GOP did when they took over the country. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Hopefully they'll start it right back up, keep the permanent campaign going |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
88. I hope the experienced people |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. That is true. When they go, much data and knowledge goes with them. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama has a movement behind him, perhaps he figures he can fill the gap with volunteers |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. take a vacation mf...you need it. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. No, DU is starting to bruise and insult those who speak out. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Poor baby... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. No, I can take it. Please continue. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
89. What a rude post. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
35. To those telling me to take a vacation...a reminder of what happened to the GOP |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. The 50-state strategy was a screaming success. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Yep to everything you said. nt |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
40. How much does it cost to keep 200+ staffers in the toughest fundraising year |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. It's for sure. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. To answer your questions in a RATIONAL manner... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. That is only part. Thank you for zeroing in me. Getting a lot of that lately. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
77. But honestly, I don't think you are being very rational. You |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. This would not be wise if intentionally done by anyone in authority... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. He merged his campaign with the DNC. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. There is zero chance Obama is worrying about the DNC right now. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. madfloridian, you are like the voice of doom anymore |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Bit much, hey? |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Plouffe would rock that post |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yep. I don't think he would have to be as visible as Dean was...... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Hubby and I worked hard to get us here, too. We appreciate Obama |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. We all worked hard to get us here......of course! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. One scant indicator is that they are fired. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. you are exhausting....... |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I was wondering what would happen to panic posts after we won the election |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. The put down posts continue. That's a shame. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Sorry about that. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. did I say that? |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. Let's look at this the other way around... |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. mad, have a beer. smoke a joint. get a massage. take a hot bath. do whatever |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Thanks I appreciate everyone telling me to leave. Very special, means a lot. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. No one is telling you to leave. Just step back for a minute and consider what you are saying |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. This was not a fearful post. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Or maybe you are just wrong. It's OK, it happens. |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. They were hired through the '08 campaign |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. That's what I thought. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. "many" assume it would be evaluated first. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. OK, really...You don't think you are freaking out? You are playing drama queen |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Oh, I forgot drama queen. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Freaking out? Standards for "freaking out " here are very low. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Oh, I agree that for some the standards here are very low. n/t |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. i did not say anything about leave. |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
62. We need the 50 state strategy to pick up more senate seats in 2010, because 2012 will be a nightmare |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. K&R |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. I love your quote from Wellstone. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
82. I have requested this post be locked so people can relax and enjoy. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
83. Before it is locked, before I get called a martyr again... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
86. Thanks for noticing, Stogie, and for your appreciation of Dean through the years. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
87. KnR for madfloridian |
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fadedrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
91. I started my small monthly contribution to the DNC when Dean |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
92. howard dean for hhs. i have no real fears for an obama administration. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Markos is taking up the fight as well to see that recognition is given.. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. man, you just can't not be cranky, can you? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Not right now, I think it is important to be a little cranky... |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. you can be as cranky as you want about the news |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-11-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
97. I think letting this end is a mistake... |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
100. Hasnt this been debunked enough already? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. No, it hasn't been debunked yet. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-12-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Obama credited it for his win... and continues to talk it up. |
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