Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

CBS News: Typeset in question available since 1931, WH relying on blogs

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM
Original message
CBS News: Typeset in question available since 1931, WH relying on blogs
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:46 PM by plastic_turkeys
Says CBS. Oh my. Internet blogs and operatives have been examining fonts and making false claims whereas the type in question has been availble commercially since 1931!!!!

Handwriting expert M. Matley examines Killian signatures and certifies signatures are authentic. Oh dear.

"I think what has happened is some incriminiating documents has come out. The White House has NOT discredited the documents, as they know the documents are real. They are relying on the blogosphere and political operatives to discredit them when they in fact know the documents are real."

CBS stands by their reporting.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:39 PM
Response to Original message
1. no surprise
move along
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. delete
Edited on Fri Sep-10-04 05:43 PM by plastic_turkeys
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Rather stood by their reporting 100%!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:44 PM
Response to Original message
4. I hope CBS learns something from this
They are out to get Anyone against them.
Defy them and start reporting the truth.
What you leave out is as important as what you leave in!
Be different. Report on what is actually going on in the world.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. They can become THE news source if they keep going
Stand up to Rove and do some digging.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. I hope CNN learns something from this
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I think they are too far gone
Blitzer and company are too entrenched. Credibility is gone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Blitzer did a disgraceful hit piece on Rather this evening. I owe him
a nastygram. He made it seem like Rather has been out to embarrass republican presidents throughout his career. He even showed an exchange between Rather and 41, when Rather had the audacity to question 41 about Iran Contra.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mbali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. And a disgraceful interview he must be seriously regretting now . .
Check out these questions:

"So when you compare these documents from that unit in the Texas Air National Guard, compared to all the other hundreds of documents that were written during that era, there's a clear difference. Is that what you're saying? . . . And the clear difference is the typeface, the superscript, that little TH that goes up. In those days, typewriters didn't normally have that kind of superscript?"

"Now, the other thing that makes the documents suspect is that surviving family members of Jerry Killian, the lieutenant colonel, the commander of George Bush's Texas Air National Guard unit, they say that -- and Jerry Killian died, what, 20 years ago. They say he didn't keep these kind of files, and it was simply farfetched to assume that he did."

"I would suspect, though, that the biggest -- the biggest question mark comes, if these four documents are totally, totally different, the typeface, the font, the style that all of the other documents released during that era from that unit, that would raise the biggest question marks. But Dan Rather, you just heard him. He's standing by this report, absolutely, positively, 100 percent true. That's what he just said, which sets the stage for another one of these potential media battles questioning the authenticity and the credibility of the news media."

"Our staff, earlier, in the past few hours, spoke to some experts on this issue, and they say there are certainly serious questions raised about the authenticity of these documents. But unless you get the original, it's going to be very, very hard to make a 100 percent determination. Is that what the experts at "The Washington Post" contacted as well are saying? . . . And it certainly will be a fascinating story. And, of course, we're not going to start speculating, if, in fact, these were forgeries and CBS News was duped. Who may have been behind that kind of caper? But that's another story that I'm sure "The Washington Post" and CNN, a lot of other news organization are going to be working on in the days to come."


And then he let Dobbs get away with this outrageous demand: "I didn't hear those comments by Dan Rather, but I think that CBS needs to, one, tell us the source of the documents. And two, they need to name their experts who authenticated the documents. As far as I know, they haven't yet named the experts they hired to authenticate the documents. I think the onus is now on them to prove that these documents are authentic."

Well, I guess Ol' Dan answered Dobbs' question. Wonder what he and Wolfie now have to say about "media credibility," which is again being called into question, NOT because of CBS' well-sourced and carefully documented story, but because of interviews like this one.





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:07 PM
Response to Original message
9. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. again
because the subject is so simple and accurate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:11 PM
Response to Original message
12. kick for 1931
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:15 PM
Response to Original message
13. The longer the story stays live, the worse for Bush
Meanwhile Kerry is campaigning. Things are looking up for us, down down down for the White House.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 11:25 PM
Response to Original message
14. IBM must have records
And old typewriters laying around in storage, right?

CNN should send a reporter to IBM and see what the find. LOL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-04 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
15. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 09:03 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC