Andrea Mitchell's Democratic Operatives/Sources Have Their Own Agenda & Might Be Spreading Lies

intentionally about Obama and his upcoming Administration.

A DU'er posted a thread this morning about a tv movie that aired last night about Lee Atwater,someone who excelled and perfected the strategy of planting false rumors to advance his own agenda.

Keith Olbermann backed up Andrea Mitchell on the grounds that she wouldn't just make a story up out of whole cloth and her editor would demand her story be based on trusted sources.

Well she might have actual Democratic Aides/Obama Advisors as sources. Obama has hundreds of "Advisors". Some more plugged into his campaign than others. But without knowing who those 2 people are we have no idea how central they are to Obama's team and have no sense and can't know what their agenda is or whether their information is actually true.

There are certainly those in Democratic circles who have employed dirty tricks like using Mediawhores to plant bogus stories in the past.

There is certainly a power struggle going on between factions of the Democratic party and Washington and the USA in general.

It is certainly within the realm of possibility Democratic operatives will or have planted a false leak/rumor about what Obama is going to do in order to INFLUENCE HIS DECISION MAKING or (less likely) to undermine him and his Administration.

I will not guess who or what those Democratic circles might be because it would be raw speculation and doesn't even matter to the point of this Opening Post.

Hopefully, DU'ers will accept the notion that Mediawhores report from sources but do NOT report what incentive that source has for giving the information.

Andrea Mitchell might be a wiling or unwilling dupe in this whole "Hillary Clinton as SoS" incident.

Or maybe she's passed on true info.

But it's entirely possible she was used by 2 Democratic Operatives who have their own agenda which doesn't necessarily include putting America first.

Note- the Mediawhores ALREADY have reported bogus rumors about Kerry WANTING AND PUSHING for SoS. This was denied by his aides. So regarding the issue of who has been asked or who will be Obama's SoS, we have a track record of bullshit being spread through Media channels.

It was intentional.

that those are 2 of the several people they are considering?

Obama hasn't denied it. It must be true.

story to a bunch of Mediawhores. THEN Obama would have to deny it right?

LOL!

Simple fact you ignored- Obama and his team are so NOT in the business of denying rumors and idle speculation. Doing so gives the adversarial elements more power and is counter productive.

It's only those who would like to bend our perception who have done that.

We hear all these 'leaks' that it's a done deal and Hillary has it, only to find out later that Bill Richardson was interviewed after this was supposedly already decided.

Rest assured, these 'leaks' did not come from Obama.

No matter how many times Lanny Davis whines on CNN, it doesn't mean that the HRC adorers will get their way. :eyes:

Doing so just gives more power to adversarial elements who are trying to influence his decision making.

of our party that has great access to media and uses it in ways that can actually hurt other Dems - and the usual targets are those on the Dem left.

Notice that the centrist Dems rarely get targeted for these type of campaigns.

They know we in the grassroots are gaining power and the last thing they want is to share power.

Luckily, Obama is willing to share the power with us as we progress along together. We will overcome the power hoarders. Their days are numbered.

They don't respond to rumors like this whether they are true or not.

space = length, width, depth + time = 4 and that's just for starters.

But Andrea made it sound as if the leak was not intentional, which is strange...if it wasn't a trial balloon, how come they didn't down play it more and reiterate that other people are being considered? I don't really care if Andrea makes a big deal out of Obama considering Hillary, but the only thing I am weary of is the people in the media who are saying things now like "Oh, but doesn't he HAVE to pick her now?" Andrea Mitchell, David Gergen, and some others have said this. He will pick who he thinks is best, and not that I think he would give in to pressure by the media, but the pressure by the media is still annoying. I understand that other people are also saying things like "Oh, he has to pick Kerry because (etc)", and that is annoying too, but the media seems to think that people will freak out now if Obama considers Hillary and ultimately decides on someone else...it's very patronizing.

And I'd just reiterate- Obama and his team are NOT in the business of denying rumors and idle speculation. Commenting on rumors just gives more power to those spreading them.

keep hinting that in the past, there would be some behind the scenes pushback against rumors like this, and claim that this ISN'T happening which makes the pick more of a possibility...this seems to be one of their main pieces of "evidence" though, which makes me weary.

or bringing up your POW status when faced with unflattering information about oneself.

Maybe this is all true.

But I am extremely skeptical.

And also not too keen on speculating where this potentially bogus info might be coming from.

I really think it is more the media than the politicians floating these things - The Kerry comments were all coming from the media - his spokesperson quickly denied them - and later, when that was hardly reported - Kerry denied them.

I dislike them because they are likely hurting everyone involved to some degree.

Do you think HRC wanted stories out that she will not have the type of role she wants in the Senate or that she tried to pull healthcare from Kennedy? Do the stories that she could be picked to eliminate her political power base? That he wanted her in the cabinet so she could be controlled and eliminated as an independent voice that could challenge him? I am NOT a HRC fan, but the leaks do not flatter her, so I seriously doubt they are from her people or with her blessing.

and what if Hillary decides she doesn't want it? The press is putting pressure on her too...it does make things awkward for all parties involved.

Kerry denied things quickly and, if not SoS, he will be a powerful Senator - likely heading the SFRC (if Dodd waives it to stay with Banking - if not he could Chair commerce - and he is 4th at Finance. There are many major issues he is interested in writing legislation for - and he sounded enthusiastic speaking of them while running in MA. In addition, there is the sad fact that MA knows that he might become their senior Senator.

The special problems with the rumors for HRC are that they also spoke of her not having a likely important role in the Senate. This, if believed, changes the view of her in the Senate that most people who do not watch the Senate have. It also makes people not believe that she really didn't want it. This is less true than they stated - but reflects the mindset that people do just what has their name on and that only the leadership is important - in fact, HRC will NEVER be just one of the junior Senators. She is a former First Lady and Bill Clinton still has power. She could use her base and email list in a way similar to what Kerry did - enlisting active support for the eventual healthcare plan - even if it has Kennedy's name on it - would be helpful.

They also undercut her, to some degree, as SoS - by pushing the view that it could be to eliminate a rival voice.

of the Rothchild clan.

without saying she is his wife shows me that she has poor ethics.

And a Show is what it is.

The Media now is the self-same media it was on November 3rd and deserves to be viewed as such...

something, it's just rumor?? Think I'll stick with that scenario...until HE or HIS TEAM actually tells us something...whatever we're hearing from others, isn't true...wb

They should smoke these anonymous "advisors" and "officials" out. My money is that it's a disgruntled clinton supporter spreading all these rumors. Sore Losers.

in the local education board, the 'elders' at most every church are engaging in power struggles, it's happening in high schools-it's the Human condition.

for far less than the reins of a country's government.