My "Tin Foil Hat" approach to Hillary as SOS

If Sen. Clinton becomes Secretary of State her job will be to carry out the policies set by the President. This effectively silences her and her husband on foreign policy issues. Anything else would seem disloyal. (BTW I think she can do this job well if she chooses to)


If she does not become SOS after it being disclosed that she was being considered everyone will speculate as to why. The assumptions will always be worse than the truth and will most likely be that she either made unreasonable demands or something was found in the vetting process that disqualified her. Either way the Clintons are diminished in the public eye.


To me this looks like another situation where Pres. Obama wins no matter what happens (and I applaud him for it). Maybe this is why the uncharacteristic leak occurred.

I'd bet money on Clinton reminding people of what a great job Hillary (wink, wink Bill) would have done as President. If only Hillary was there to answer that 3 a.m. economic phone call....

and he would be doing that anyways

I'm not seeing Bill Clinton shouting out his views. Where are you getting this from????

Supporting his wife during a campaign and otherwise is the norm. What person would not support their spouse in everyway possible. Other than that, what is it that Bill Clinton has not been silent about?????

All this drama and baggage regarding the Clinton's is media fabrication...because the media loves drama.

I go by facts. Bill Clinton stopped campaigning for his wife after she conceded and has since then only been a supporting husband. I don't see criticism of Michelle Obama or Elizabeth Edwards, etc...being supportive of a spouse.

Whatever your "bet" is based on, is a figment of your imagination. The Clinton's are rarely in the news unless hounded by the media. The media followed Bill to Kuwait...he didn't aske for a press conference.

Bill and Hill are two different people therefore I think intelligent people will not draw such a conclusion. After all that would just make her another Sarah Palin in which voting for her meant you voted for Todd as well. If I vote for Hillary I want her not Bill. Furthermore, Bill Clinton did not single-handedly aid the economy.

What exactly has he been ranting about...cause I'm not hearing it. The rare occasions that I have heard him speak in recent years was either about his charitable work or when campaigning for Hillary or Obama. He's not out their voicing his opinions.

This is media created because they love drama and so many fall for it even though there is no evidence whatsoever.

In that context, my opinion is that it would be better for him to just shut up than to suggest that she would be better to respond to a 3am economic call and that she would be better for the economy.

How have the Clinton's been vocal about their foreign policy issues. Name some of their issues that need to be silenced.

a separate power base to voice her opinion on any issue that conflicts with the President.

This is concerning conflicts that may occur in the future, not any that now exist.


I am also not saying that they need to be silenced, only that it will be easier for Pres. Obama if he eliminates the Clintons as possible voices of dissent.


Remember, this is a tin foil hat approach.

...chose someone for an important job like SOS just to silence them. Not only would that be irresponsible but it would make him a hypocrit. One of his reasons he gave for choosing Biden for VP was because he DISAGREED WITH HIM. Obama has always been clear that he wants people working with him who challenge him...he doesn't want a bunch of "yes" men.

We had 8 years of a majority that just rubberstamped Bush at every turn. Do you really think Obama is trying for the same thing. I think the LAST thing he wants to do is silence people.

not just to silence her. There is no doubt that there are other advantages to baving her as SOS. As I said in the OP, she would be good at the job.

this is a very focused post about how a win-win situation may be set up by leaking her name.

She would NEVER try to undermine a sitting Dem President. It would also be political suicide.

Hell, I was surprised when I worked with folks on the Hill how positively people regard her.

What you say is true.

Friends of mine in Germany, Belarus, and Ireland were VERY excited with the idea that HRC would be President. They are also taken (way more than me!) with the idea that she may be SOS.

that overheard a conversation with some people who sounded like they were important, and I base all my opinions on it.

but if she still is entertaining some hope of running in 2016 then she will use her position in the senate to gain political influence. (many of us believe her vote for the Iraq war as well as things like drafting legislation to ban flag burning was all about her 2008 Presidential hopes)

and there is more than one team in the senate now. She is a team player with the DLC.

and his turn on FISA, the Cuban embargo and DC gun ban were about his presidential hopes.

As well as naive of how things work.

Senator Clinton would actually be more powerful, influential, and SECURE in the Senate than in a Cabinet position. It is hard to leave the SEnate and then come back. She can do more good for the Party -- AND US -- then in the SOS position. Only a SCOTUS judgeship would be (probably) more influential.

How does that diminish anyone???

If PE Obama is really so obsessed and vengeful that he wants to "diminish" another politician OF THE SAME PARTY WHO HAS HUGELY SUPPORTED HIM, then I'm sorry I voted for him, and wish I had voted for Cynthia McKinney instead. Because, that's very, very Bushlike, and I don't think PE Obama is like that. It's even worse if he's thinking that at this particular time. And shame on you if you think that.

while Obama only had one speech he delivered in 2002


Yes, she would be diminished if it is assumed that he tried to give her the SOS job and couldn't because of the vetting or her demands. This is compared with her going back to the senate without being considered for SOS. That is the comparison, she goes back to the senate either way.

Obama has let go of the primaries...and he has let go of the general election which was much harder on him. Why can't people here do the same.

Although I don't want her to take it if offered.

I actually think, if Obama HAS offered it to her, THAT is the reason he's going that way.

but it places her (and indirectly her husband) directly under him in the chain of command, not in a separate branch of government.