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Jackeens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:28 PM Original message |
Abraham Lincoln: "Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. or |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Damn. That Lincoln guy was a smart dude. Who was he again? |
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Gruenemann (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Lincoln? He was an inexperienced senator from Illinois. eom |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Actually, he was never a senator from Illinois. He lost that election to Douglas. nt |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. As long as they are enemies. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. Nope.... we have to act EXACTLY like the repukes..... you don't get it |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Revenge is a strawman. So is "bipartisanship". It's about competence & loyalty. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. One could argue Dodd, et al are being loyal to their friend, Joe LIEberman |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. They could have continued to be co-workers & human beings either way. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. And there was a bloody war to defeat them. Just sayin'. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. And who was the winner of that war? Just sayin'. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. Good excuse as any. Keep 'em coming. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. how about "a house divided against itself cannot stand"? |
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Democrats_win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Abe Lincoln? Look how that turned out. Just saying |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. That's a pretty fucked up "just saying" |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. What does that mean? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. turned out that Lincoln is recognized as one of the best leaders we've |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. Lincoln wasn't President in this sickening total media environment. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. Lincoln's political rivals weren't calling him "a terrorist" or "a commie socialist" |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. no- his rivals were intent on destroying him- and they did succeed |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Lincoln wanted Lee to lead the Union Army |
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SweetieD (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. actually Lincoln's rivals did call him a n--- & n-lover or the equivalent |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. They also did indeed hold rallies -- and print stuff -- calling for his death |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
17. wisdom well spoken- even truer today than ever. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
24. Not familiar with this quote |
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JDwho (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
25. kind of like, "killing them with kindness". |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
27. The problem here is how long this "detente" between Obama and his enemies (rivals) will work out. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
28. Barack Obama has qualities that Abe Lincoln was said to have. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Lincoln's "team of rivals" was a myth |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 05:11 AM Response to Original message |
29. That's *one* possibility. The other is.... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
30. It's easier to make your rivals play nice when you suspend habeas corpus and toss people in jail. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. And your point is....what? Who is it that you are saying is his enemy? ???? nt |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-20-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
32. Obama should read the fable "The Scorpion and the Frog" |
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