David Gergen just said Chambliss's win is a big victory for...

SARAH PALIN! She now has "a big win under her belt" and this is gonna make her a "hot property" in the 2010 off-year election! :wtf:

win the base!

he is usually a voice of reason.

delusional. :eyes:

taking the credit for this win. And Saxby is going to promote this as well. How awful.

being gone from AK. Anyone who would run against her would be able to use her absence against her.

if they go for the culture warrior (on steroids) David Gergen is very right.

Now, on the bright side, if the culture warrior shtick fails in 2010... that is the end of the road for Mrs Palin and the rest of the gang

the ever-shrinking RW base.

but that is exactly what this civil war is all about right now

The GOP is literally fighting for who they are and to define themselves

She is ONE end

and I hope she wins. It would guarantee US another win in '12.

I like Gergen and I think he is objective, but sometimes he really says things that make me go WTF! This was a Pat Buchanan talking point the other day too.

to be stuck with someone like Palin. Huckabee maybe... but not Palin.

To give them another chance to prop her up, especially if her handlers have a chance to make her sound a little more competent in the interim? The MSM will be happy to put a spotlight back on her if they think it'll increase their viewership.

...an ass.

But she enjoys what?...a 90 or 60% approval rating in the GOP? It's because of fundie nuts who need to be choked out of US culture RIGHT NOW!!


Their brand of nutness is one of the reasons the first fundie nuts left England long long long time ago.

yet he's credentialed so the media does backflips to hear his sputterings.

He drew a very good Democratic turnout on election day. It seems like the media is trying their best to prop up Palin, because they know she can be another conservative puppet like Bush.

THIS time the Dem. lost by nearly 20% instead of just 3% on Nov. 4th.

She's a proven ratings getter (for the rabid right fundies who see her as their savior and the left who can't wait to see what stupid thing she says next). They'll prop her up for that reason alone.

I really can't take Anderson Cooper seriously....the way he makes that airheaded clueless look to the panelists while asking his "objective" questions? Like he really doesn't know what the answer is? It's so strange! He could ask the obvious question in an interesting way, but instead he chooses to ask the obvious questions with a really CONFUSED look on his face, and it cracks me up. What the hell.

He asks every question with a "serious squint" like it's such a serious question.

how Mika on Morning Joe, by the second and third time the "News you Can't use" segment comes around, starts saying in the really exagerated way "Wait....what? WHAT?", as if this is the first time she is hearing it. Do people instruct them to do this? It just makes them look ridiculous.

"In what regard, Charlie?" You KNOW they MUST have something goin' on, especially since she started wearing her hair in a self-described "Palin hairstyle" after Joe and the others said how good-looking they find Palin.

But yes-kind of like that. She obviously knows the answer and act like she doesn't and it's obvious each passing time that she does.

because he looks the part. He's a posing lightweight.

We can't do it for them. Hopefully, they will turn blue the way VA and NC did...

She's nice to look at and she's a total loser in any general election. She has my vote to lead the Republican Party for as long as she can.

Sarah is the Republican Savior. I look forward to when she feeds a million minions with a pound of moose meat.

to the Democratic Party.

The more she is seen the more she is exposed to people that have brains.

Sarah Palin is not going to win the nomination to be the rethuglican nominee in '12. There is no way those white guys are going to let it happen. We could only wish she does. Unless she becomes even somewhat coherent in the next two years she does not have a chance. We are in for a world of total fuckupatude and she will never be able to make it look like she can handle it. The only way would be if Barack fucks things up beyond belief. Do you really think he'll do that?

Stop worrying about this moron. We have much bigger fish to fry right now!

I don't know see how Palin gets out of any Senate run in 2010 or White House run in 2012 without her image in tatters. She was generally left alone this year because she was the VP candidate.

Once she runs for the top of the ticket the things that didn't register this time around will become much larger issues that she won't be able to just flick away by ignoring them.

people like Gergen could say and mean such a thing.

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But then, this is the country that watches shit like American Idol, so I suppose the shallow and the stupid would think something of the kind...

the stupidity of the majority of voters in Georgia. That is all.

Even when I don't agree with him, I find his comments useful and based on actual thought.

I'm amazed that Sarah Palin is viewed by anyone as something other than punch line... but I don't agree with her (supposed) "views", and even if I were a Republican, I can't imagine viewing her any differently.

It's surprising that Gergen takes her seriously. I know she draws crowds, but so does a 2-headed turtle or calf or some such at the county fair. I'd bet there are people who do go see her because of that sort of incredulity, not out of support. I have no statistical data, Imma jes' guessin'... : )

something to the effect of "I think we weren't careful after she was first announced not to offend people who supported her"...oh, screw that.

and I like your comparison of her ability to draw crowds with a 2-headed turtle, etc. :D

So, Chambliss gets more votes in one election, and then gets more votes in the same election once a third party is removed. It must have been Palin.

That or Georgia is just kinda horked somehow. One or the other, ya know.

As if he didn't have a damn good chance of winning without Palin coming withing 1000 miles of Georgia. Keep at it Dave... let's all help promote Palin every chance we get shall we?

Poor David, and he seemed to be doing well for a while there :(

I like him sometimes, but this? :wtf: indeed!

Scumbliss was going to win that race no matter who showed up to campaign for him. In fact he could have probably skipped campaigning altogether and still won. IT'S FUCKING GEORGIA for chrissakes!

And that is a good thing for our party. The more Sarah Palin is put forward as the "leader" of the republican party, including for things she actually has relatively little to do with, the better. She will divide the republicans like no other person inside their party.

And Murkowski gunning for her from her left flank!

I hope she's the nominee in '12.

The Pukes won that one,too. Jesus, David you are such a Cable-net-breathless puppy!

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Is there some (exit) polling data to support this outrageous claim (or the "news story" I read the other day suggesting that Chambliss winning this race signifies some kind of "loss" for Obama at the hands of Sarah Palin) or is this simply another one of those "it's true because we say it's true" pundit thing that happens all the time with near impunity? Chambliss, as far as I know, was already expected to win this race and Obama didn't carry Georgia, so why should Sarah Palin, of all people, be somehow credited with playing a significant role in his victory? There are simply just some statements that are SO "beyond the pale" stupid but this one by Gergen (somebody I usually tend to agree with or at least understand) is particularly breathtaking. But hey, if the corporate media whores want to prop her up for 2010 or beyond, then who's going to stop them? In the last election she DID prove how useful she could be (to us that is). ;-)

just his opinion, of course. Of course Chambliss would've won whether she campaigned for him or not. I expect a comment like that to come from Pat Buchanan or Mika Brzezinski, but not David Gergen.

And I agree with you that she's useful to US. :)

There's a reason why Obama won by such a large margin. The Republicans who possession a jigger of gray matter couldn't bring themselves to vote for an idiot.

winning in a very red state is a HUGH upset for the Republicans!

Or maybe Gergen's just got a hardon for Sarah Palin.

I am looking forward to it already. :evilgrin:

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/election_results/2008_1202//003.htm

All the counties except for a few voted overwhelmingly for Chambliss. My county Cherokee is bright red, 42,832 voted for Chambliss and 9,558 for Martin. In fact, whenever there are local elections there are no Democrats on the ballots, so I don't bother voting.

with the same conservative yahoos you do, I can still vote for Sheriff and other Democrats, since Fulton is overall a deep blue county (just not my area). Forsyth is not far from me, and they are nearly as pathetic as Cherokee. No offense, but you couldn't pay me to live in those two white flight/no taxes for no services counties.

Ala Southpark, and the result is he says some really stupid things.

He is in love with the sound of his own voice. Kind of a Peggy Noonan with a combover.

GA is in the "rump" area of the Republican party: no nothing religious nuts who voted for the McCain/Palin ticket in higher numbers than Bush/Cheney in '04.

It is not a coalition that can win anyone the White House. Only the deep South.

I understand the republicans' need to spin this favourably for themselves, but with respect to Palin - she went to GA to campaign solely because:

1) She'll do anything to keep her face in a camera
2) She'll do anything to get out of Alaska

Gergen likely just needed something quick to say and that comment came out. He probably regrets it today.

Takin' her Fundie Nutball Xpress tour into four Georgia stops, and claimin' credit for something that had been in the bag for Chambliss all along.

Tossin' out some "baby-killer" rhetoric along the way.

That took some guts, you betcha.

fine, because I think that dim bulb can be beaten very easily.

because she ain't gonna win any other election in the lower 48

I am all for the GOP to stay under the control of the fundies at this point.

For Palin this is about her and this win will feed her ego

this is HER victory

not that she didnt already have one .. but...


i like the idea of her being the head of a ticket...

should be the easiest election of our lifetimes ;)

america sees her interesting because shes so batty, not because she has any substance whatsoever...
hence why her ratings dropped like a rock after people got to see her more...

so PLEASE u right-wing morans.... do the moran thing and pick the easiest person for us to take down...


until then, ill be hoping and dreaming this lil dream will come true.

How much time did Sarah Palin spend in Pennsylvania - how'd that race turn out?

:grr: