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Hokie

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:11 PM
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IF Senator Reid were a great leader

He would keep the Senate in session right through Christmas and make the slash and burn Repukes have to talk and talk. This "gentleman's filibuster crap needs to stop.

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The Magistrate

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:12 PM
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1. Hear Hear, Sir!

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tabbycat31

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:12 PM
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2. Reid needs to grow a pair

and stop giving in to the threat of the word "fillibuster"

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Zenlitened

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:13 PM
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3. That's a mighty big "if," unfortunately. - n/t

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yourguide

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:13 PM
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4. +1

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EFerrari

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:15 PM
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5. There is nothing gentle in allowing our people to be screwed.

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Double T

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:16 PM
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6. 'change' needs to start with the senate majority leader............

mr. milk toast needs to go........home.

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Indenturedebtor

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:19 PM
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7. Yeah Reid is a weaksuck and needs to be replaced

He can take his fellow enabler Pelosi with him on the way out.

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Double T

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:29 PM
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9. Yep. We need a Speaker that wields a 38" Adirondack Baseball Bat........

instead of a puny gavel.

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Indenturedebtor

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Fri Dec-12-08 08:05 PM
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19. Hell at this point I'd be impressed if he'd even just use his gavel

What a weinie.

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EFerrari

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:22 PM
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8. It just seems too easy for these people, even Barbara whom I love,

to say "change is on the way" while people are having trouble feeding their kids.

It's not enough. They all start sounding like white noise. And they, even people as good as Barbara and Dick Durbin, should know that.

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Truth2Tell

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Thu Dec-11-08 11:31 PM
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10. Amen! No more gentlemen's filibuster!

Make them actually do it. EVERY SINGLE TIME from now on.

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rvablue

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Fri Dec-12-08 02:00 AM
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11. I agree. BRING IN THE COTS. And while others might BE WITH their families on

Christmas it won't be a pleasant one, worrying about lost jobs and unaffordable bills.

I think the Senate can sacrifice and I have little doubt it would end their shenanigans very quickly.

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brentspeak

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Fri Dec-12-08 02:07 AM
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12. I agree.

I'm not sure if it would have made a difference, but the issue is too big to not at least try.

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tritsofme

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Fri Dec-12-08 02:15 AM
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13. It takes 60 votes to invoke cloture, and just one objection can keep a bill from being

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voted on by the Senate.

The onus is on the majority to invoke cloture, and the only way to do that is with either 60+ votes or unanimous consent.

All the filibustering party must do is prevent 60 votes, they need not "talk all day and night" or anything like that.

Sometimes the votes just aren't there.

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karynnj

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Fri Dec-12-08 09:18 AM
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18. Nice, clear way of stating this

In fact, they do not even have to be there - because the party that wants to move to a vote needs to get 60 votes - even 59 to 0 doesn't work. All Reid could do is to continue to call for more cloture votes - making the Democrats and Republicans willing to vote for it come in to vote. That he said it was dead for the year means he knows there are at least 40 Senators of the 99 Senators who can not be moved to vote for it.

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BlooInBloo

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Fri Dec-12-08 03:18 AM
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14. If wishes were ponies.

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ColbertWatcher

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Fri Dec-12-08 07:14 AM
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15. And, he would demand they do it outside.

Let those filibustering, cowardly GOPers know what it will be like for the people they put out of work.

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Hokie

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Fri Dec-12-08 07:33 AM
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16. They really, really need to do this

If someone on Obama's team reads DU. Please convince Obama to call Harry Reid and tell him to keep his ass there in Washington. We have no President in Washington. His party ignores him. Reid dare not ignore Barack Obama.

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TexasObserver

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Fri Dec-12-08 08:59 AM
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17. Harry Reid has ZERO sense of staging. He's clueless.

Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 09:01 AM by TexasObserver

First you build up the tension, the awareness of the vote. You start some fights. You bring it to a vote. You force the other side to filibuster. You make them publicly and loudly own their position, and you make sure the public knkows the GOP position is "thumbs down."

You make them the Grinch that is stealing Christmas.

You don't make it easy for the GOP and then just shrug and walk away.

We have had some great majority leaders for our party, leaders who understood how to get things passed, how to frame issues. Harry Reid is not just bad, he's horrible. How he ever got any leadership position is a mystery.

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