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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:26 AM
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Please instruct me, oh good folk of GD/P....
Why on earth are we still talking about impeaching Bush? He'll be gone in just over a month...

It makes no sense to me to pursue this now.

I loathe him too, don't get me wrong.

Let Obama go after Bush once he's out of office.

He can still be brought to justice.

What say you?

:shrug:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:36 AM
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1. Kitten hater


:hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:37 AM
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3. Ha!
You are too funny!

:rofl:

:hi:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:37 AM
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2. We cannot let stand his willful circumvention of the constitution.
I think he should be impeached even AFTER he leaves office. It's not even a justice thing, though it would do my heart good to see him, Cheney, and Rove perp walked into the Hague to face war crimes... but the impeachment needs to happen to counter future Presidents from every using the argument that Bush established precedent on what the Office of the President can do.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:39 AM
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4. I do agree with your POV...
I also think that the Hague is just the place for him and all the rest of them.

But impeachment? In our Senate?

It's too late for that.

Let the Hague make an example of him, IMHO.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:56 AM
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9. Not enough.

The Hague would make a judgment on the aspects of war crimes (invading without cause, torture, use of mercenaries, etc).

But WE need to restore the rule of law and the place of the constitution as the arbiter of the powers of the branches of government, something which has been totally perverted by the Bush Crime Syndicate. It's a political crime, committed by the President and senior members of his administration. And it needs to be set right. And it needs to be done by the House and the Senate (with the Chief Justice overseeing the conviction in the Senate) to restore the balance of power.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:59 AM
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10. I understand what you're saying...
I just don't see the will to make this happen.

Do you?

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 01:12 AM
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13. Even if Obama had a mind to do it... he has other things to do
that are even more important to the immediate welfare of the people. I understand that. I don't like it, but I understand.

I hope that he encourages federal prosecutors to look further into Rove and maybe Cheney and bring them up on charges of their lesser crimes. And let it be known that he won't do anything to protect any of them should they be arrested outside the US by powers who wish to see them stand trial for war crimes.

But no, probably nothing will happen.

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:42 AM
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5. I say it is a festering boil that nothing has been done. Furthermore
I say President Obama has such an incredibly diverse dumpster full of things that have to be pulled out and glued back together that the stench alone will be all but unbearable as he will attempt to do it anyway.
I say it is too late for impeachment, and I would like to do harm to those who took it off the table when it was still so steamingly hot on it.

I say, that if President Obama does not impede others who want to go after Bush I will be happy.

I also say that if he stops them in any way I will be a fury hell has not before known.

Does that answer your question when it comes to my feelings?

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:46 AM
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6. My dear Mira...
You have made your feelings abundantly clear, and I thank you!

It is a festering boil, for sure...

I want to see Bush punished, but impeachment....no.

And I too am livid with those who took impeachment off the table.

Thank you!

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 01:00 AM
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11. Impeachment - The Hague - Being arrested while falling down drunk
somewhere in Europe where they are on the lookout for war criminals and leaders who disregard the Geneva Conventions.

I don't care how, I don't care when. I don't care if Bugliosi assists some back woods prosecutor who just passed her/his bar exam.

I only care that he never ever has a moment of peace.

Considering the fancy workouts we paid for every day, (disregarding the scrapes on face and elbows, the pretzel chokes, the falling down drunk escapades in China, the drunk evasions in San Diego of what was happening in NOLA the day after the levvies broke among other things to disregard)
this man may live another fifty years with the money he has and the health care he does not have to concern himself with.

That would be 50 years of daily worry.
Werks for me.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:53 AM
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7. Obama will not go after Bush. No sitting president has ever done that
and our new President will be breaking other records.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 12:56 AM
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8. That could be...
But perhaps Vincent Bugliosi will go after him?

We can hope!

And I agree; Obama will have more than a full plate to deal with.

:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 01:14 AM
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14. I hope that someone or some organization will step up.
I don't see how he could AND manage everything else.

Well, we'll see, won't we? :hi:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 01:08 AM
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12. Ah - another questioner of Good Americans... You're clearly another lockstepper.
:P
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 01:19 AM
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15. ...
:P
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