I think you people bashing Obama need to think about a few things.

• This will be the most open, accessible, and inclusive Inauguration in American history.

• In keeping with the spirit of unity and common purpose this Inauguration will reflect, the President-elect and Vice President-elect have chosen some of the world's most gifted artists and people with broad appeal to participate in the inaugural ceremonies.

• Pastor Rick Warren has a long history of activism on behalf of the disadvantaged and the downtrodden. He's devoted his life to performing good works for the poor and leads the evangelical movement in addressing the global HIV/AIDS crisis. In fact, the President-elect recently addressed Rick Warren's Saddleback Civil Forum on Global Health to salute Warren's leadership in the struggle against HIV/AIDS and pledge his support to the effort in the years ahead.

• The President-elect disagrees with Pastor Warren on issues that affect the LGBT community. They disagree on other issues as well. But what's important is that they agree on many issues vital to the pursuit of social justice, including poverty relief and moving toward a sustainable planet; and they share a commitment to renewing America's promise by expanding opportunity at home and restoring our moral leadership abroad.

• As he's said again and again, the President-elect is committed to bringing together all sides of the faith discussion in search of common ground. That's the only way we'll be able to unite this country with the resolve and common purpose necessary to solve the challenges we face.

• The Inauguration will also involve Reverend Joseph Lowery, who will be delivering the official benediction at the Inauguration. Reverend Lowery is a giant of the civil rights movement who boasts a proudly progressive record on LGBT issues. He has been a leader in the struggle for civil rights for all Americans, gay or straight.

• And for the very first time, there will be a group representing the interests of LGBT Americans participating in the Inaugural Parade.

To name a few.

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It's like people think he still has to be elected or something.

Tiresome.

of some outreach to the poor. And what has he really done for people in poverty?

Obama is showing that we should work to find common ground with others, even if they vehemently disagree on other issues.

Why not ask him to speak too!

I'm not "bashing Obama," but I'm condemning his inclusion of a homophobe who has called me--all of us--Holocaust deniers and perpetrators because we believe in choice.

If Obama is serious about uniting, he does not need to be giving support to a divider.

you listed without the bigotry aimed at my community (and others too).

I hope they'll have the giant inflatable burning cross again.

Did I remember that right from the talking points?

"... and the inauguration will reflect that"

Well, I don't see the KKK listed anywhere. I only see someone who compares us to pedophiles getting a prime spot in the festivities.

Someone that compares gays to incest and fucking dogs?

The Hillary card is being played.

What a shocker!

You don't answer that. She shared a stage with him. And a common cause.

Hillary's not being sworn in as President and having a homophobe there. BIG difference.

I don't think I've ever gave her a pass for that.

You just can't back up this bullshit with Warren without dragging Hillary into it.

I set up an equal strawman. It is a battle of the strawmen.

figures...

Bill and Hill are the best friends the GBLT have EVER had - unlike obama who proves his disdain at best for "tolerating" us...

you can shove your hill hating spew up your ass...

play the Hillary card.

because I want to give him the benefit of the doubt since I realize he is facing monumental challenges. But this is beginning to get a little ridiculous. The very idea that you can work with Republicans is questionable in and of itself but when you start elevating frauds like Rick Warren in an attempt to "reach across the aisle" you're entering questionable territory yourself, IMO.

Clinton tried to include Republicans in his administration too, and just look what that got him -- even to this day.

You're trying to dumb down the conversation. No one doubts Obama will be a more "open, accessible, and inclusive" leader. The problem has to do with giving a singular honor to someone who has taken the lead in standing foursquare against equal civil rights for some Americans based on either (1) their sexual orientation or (2) their pregnancy status.

I think you're being intentionally obtuse here.

And I understand they'll have some Negroes singing and dancing too -- just like the old days.

YOU get it...

We get march and sing some old Homosexual spirituals ..... "Some wheeeeeerrrre over the rainbooooooow".

And of course there will be hair dressers to assist other parade participants.

What a hit that will be!

We're talking nipples to the wind!

Or bells and have them march with our representatives in the marching band.

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:yourock: great post to another "you people" post.

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but he lost me when he went on to equivocate gay marriage with incest etc..

However as I ponder this choice, I wonder if Obama is looking to the future? Perhaps Mr. Warren will help us make a step forward on gay rights if Obama signs legislation down the road supporting Civil Unions? Or??

I dunno. The Warren thing has been tough for me to grapple with. But, I think you've made some points worth considering.

Thanks LoZo. :hi:

Edited to add link supporting my statements above: http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/12/should-fire-rick-warren-be-fir.html

Yeah, they represent my interests alright. :crazy:

crap about Warren caring about social justice when he holds the views he does is an even worse outrage. Might as when argue that david Duke cares about social justice.

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What a shame.

Or is he maintaining consent by silence?

This cluster bombing of threads with talking points is cluttering up the board

nice...

at least the idiots are coming out of the wooodwork today...

to remind us all what ASSHOLES they truly are...

your claims will be slightly more believable only AFTER he "reaches out" to the KKK - until then, you're FULL OF SHIT as all you apologists are, as usual...

He's throwing religious people a bone . . . a measly two minute bone at that, and then ending with a minister who does support gay rights. He has to keep his support in the high numbers and then he can get the GLTB folks, and women and the poor. etc. the rights and policies and fair treatment they deserve. He can't just play to the base like the bonehead that's slinking out of the WH. It's a good move politically. He knows he can't wield a hammer to get important things to happen, he has to win over the support of the other side. He has to finesse it. One of the most, IMO, is reforming healthcare, and to be honest, people are dying with this fucked up system. Big picture, big picture.

Are you into the Insane Clown Posse?

And a usual suspect, yes.

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