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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:37 PM
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If YOU can compromise on gay rights, why can't Obama?
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 03:38 PM by Freddie Stubbs
Did you vote for Obama for President? If you did, you voted for a man who is on record opposing gay marriage. You may have felt that his other stances on gay rights (repeal DOMA and Don't ask, Don't tell) were good enough. Or perhaps you felt that his support of other issues near dear to you were worth supporting a man who is on record opposing gay marriage.

If you, as a voters, can compromise by voting for a man who opposes gay marriage, why is it unforgivable for Obama to compromise by allowing Rick Warren give an invocation at his inauguration?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:39 PM
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1. Because it's not nearly the same thing.
But you knew that, didn't you?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:42 PM
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2. Obama didn't campaign on HOPE CHANGE and BAN GAY MARRIAGE
Jeez
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:44 PM
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3. I didn't in the primaries.. No choice in the GE....McCain would have been worse.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:29 AM
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15. Exactly
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:47 PM
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4. Maybe because people like YOU would never allow Dennis Kucinich to be the nominee?
It's the goddamn DLC vichy "Dems" that are behind all the compromises. Not the Liberals.

Like the one who signed DOMA and Don't Ask Don't Tell in the first place.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 09:49 AM
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10. Us and 99 percent of the Democrats who vote in the primaries, you mean
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:28 AM
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14. You can blame the Iowa caucus-goers, the New Hampshire primary voters and the NV caucus-goers
Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 10:29 AM by Freddie Stubbs
He dropped out before I had a chance to destroy his chances here in the FL primary.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:52 PM
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6. Do you realize how bad that sounds? (your opening statement)
Just wondering. That is all. I'm now officially burnt out on the Warren issue.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:29 AM
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16. I think they do
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 03:52 PM
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7. But why does Obama HAVE to pick Warren?
WHY? The only analysis I've seen is that he need to reach out to the Evangelicals. AND WHY? For VOTES. For fucking 2012. His presidency hasn't even started and he has to make sure to "include" those that fundamentally are against everything Democrats are supposed to be for. Not just Gay rights but Women's rights. Those rights are why we feel blackmailed into voting for Democrats sometimes in the first place. MEANING yes we compromise-we have to.

And bitter irony of Obama is that post-partisanship-just means campaigning all the time and making sure you take for granted the left, women, blacks, gays that "have no place else to go." Which is why we voted for him in the first place. It makes me feel icky about Obama. That's the word-icky. Yuck. It doesn't really affect anything this Warren pick. But it makes us like Obama less and it makes us feel really BAD. Thanks Democratic president elect!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:02 AM
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13. I know why "I" voted for him..
and as far as I've read about his choice of Warren, it seems that he wanted to invite the religious right to the party. The ick, yuck that has nothing to do with the choice of Warren, that makes all of you feel really bad has obviously been there all along, no?
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BluRay01 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 04:50 PM
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8. Not the same thing.
We had a choice between two (major party) candidates. Obama could choose anyone he wanted for this address. If he had been told, say, that either Rick Warren or Fred Phelps could give the address, I'd be cheering for the choice of Warren. As it is, giving a global stage and spotlight to a man who purports to be a man of God, but who was an integral part of the stripping of civil rights from a group of Americans, is indefensible.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 09:44 AM
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9. Crickets
:rofl:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 09:53 AM
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11. Uh, because it's more compromise than he ran on?
Fucking duh.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 09:56 AM
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12. Is there a contest for dumbest rationalization or something?
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