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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:44 PM Original message |
The primary misconception causing emotions about the Warren invocation |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. But you DON'T honor it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. The only way we have ever stopped bigotry in this country is through the Supreme Court |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I wasn't aware that we'd stopped it. If we have..... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:47 PM Original message |
Some folks read too quickly. I never said it was ALL stopped. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. And *I* am saying...... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Maybe. I'm not as sure as you are that evidence is in. n/t |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. And... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Right. People had to get hurt and injured and dead. That's right. |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. It is effective not right. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. And just for clarity, think of the other end of that firehose |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I don't care about him, just the public watching and learning from his mistake |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. What? nt |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. Don't give a posterchild for such attitudes a fucking pulpit to preach from... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Do they change their minds if you do it really well? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I'm not interested in changing their minds, I'm interested in kicking them to the fringes of... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Yes, it would be just, my point is that it wouldn't work as well |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Work well for what? Civil rights are NOT going to be handed to GLBT people... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. True, a good lot of them will need to change their minds |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Honoring bigots is not "educating" bigotry in any way, shape, or form. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Well said. Hopefully more people will get that distinction in the days ahead. nt |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. You can not educate someone who is not at the table |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. There's no table involved here, literally or metaphorically. |
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crappyjazz (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Violent opposition |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. a form of ineffective opposition |
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crappyjazz (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. cute |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. kick. NT |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. IF Obama makes it clear in his Inauguration Speech the importance |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. +1 !!! |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. That would be a sweet recovery from what appears at present to be a mistake. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. If Obama claims to endorse GLBT rights while giving this bigot a place of honor |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. He's already a hypocrite. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. Ding! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. I know stupidity when I see it. |
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enough already (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. How does giving this asshole the biggest stage in the world 'teach' him anything? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. He is reaching out his hand to the opposition and will win far more converts by doing so than... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Those are the choices? |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. There's a difference here |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. If you want to reach out to somebody |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. You make him sit on a stage and smile while *you* make your point |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. You're suggesting this is about |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It's a lot more subtle than that |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. Who has been violent? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. It was a comparison, i.e. as effective as violence, as in not very |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'll ask this for the fifth or so time today |
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